12 Bar Shuffle Riff

You Guys…
@BurnsRhythm @Richard_close2u @Socio
Too much…
Taking my Guitar & “Shuffling” on out of here!!! :joy:

Tod

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I had a giggle at that. :slight_smile:

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Am I the only one who can’t keep a straight wrist playing this? Its easier to stretch the third finger out to the fourth fret if I give the wrist some bend, but I’m trying to force myself to keep the wrist straight, but it sure tightens my hand up quite tight. Then forcing the hand to relax results the in the wrist bend again. I suppose it will take repetition to get the finger reach without the bend?

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Hi @artax_2, I just checked myself and I’m not bending my wrist. Perhaps you could post a short video, which will help folks to perhaps give some tips.

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I have problems to stretch my fingers that far. It is quite a distance from 2nd to 4th fret. My fingers are relatively short und not yet flexible enough. Are there any special finger exercises to improve flexibility? :sweat_smile:

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Hi @Richard_close2u, I’m in the process of going through the theory course, so was curious how we may call it the A chord when we play the notes A and F# for example in that shuffle pattern. Guess my confusion is that F# is not in the scale of A major, so how does playing the A and F# together give it an A sound or how do we call it an A sound. It sounds fantastic of course however was wondering how it relates to the theory, or maybe i shouldn’t relate it to theory like you mentioned?

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Not quite sure of the question here Vivek but F# is the 6th interval of the A Major scale.

A B C# D E F# G#

You mention the A chord which is a Major triad A C# E

For a Blues Shuffle the predominant chord is the A5 power chord, root and 5th A and E. In that chunka chunka shuffle you alternate between an A5 chord and a A6 diad (??) root an 6th only in this case A & F#.

Hope that helps.

:sunglasses:

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Thank you @TheMadman_tobyjenner. That was totally stupid of me mixing up the A major chord triad and the scale! Thank you for taking the time and patiently explaining.

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Oh sorry @TheMadman_tobyjenner have a small confusion related to this topic. The A7 chord has the notes A,C#,E,G. I hope i didnt make a mistake on that. I’d assumed that what justin is playing is the A7,D7,E7 progression. So was wondering how the F# note finds a place in what i assumed was an A7. Would i be correct if i assume that the lesson is not strictly an A7 chord. All very newbie questions and as always thank you for the patience.

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Ah I see. No in the 12 BAR SHUFFLE RIFF lesson he is using power chords not open chords, which would be your A7 D7 E7

From the lesson

So the Open A string and the D string 2nd fret is an A5 chord.
The Open A string and the D string 4th fret is A6

Same when you move to the D and G strings.
Open D string and the G string 2nd fret D5
Open D string, and the G string 4th fret D6

I let you work out what happens on the E and A strings :wink:

Hope that helps.

:sunglasses:

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Toby has got it.
Although, you don’t need to call it anything.
You would describe playing a shuffle groove or a chunka chunka rhythm in A and that is all the explanation needed.

Again, Toby has it. Not all 12-bar blues uses 7 chords.

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Thank you so much @TheMadman_tobyjenner As the earlier blues lessons were the 7 chords i just automatically assumed that’s what were being used in this as well. But im glad i tried to make sense of it and learnt a few new things. Thanks to you and @Richard_close2u

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I look at this as something completely different from the 12BB chord progressions. You could actually play just the fretted notes and it would still work, but wouldn’t sound as bluesy, By adding the open string root notes, you are playing 5th and 6th interval dyads. The same intervals are played with A D and E roots, thus the name riff. My understanding is that early blues players were trying to emulate the sound of a blues piano player. You can hear that piano sound in the intro of Bad, Bad Leroy Brown - Jim Croce another song from my formative years.

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