Beginner's Safe Space 2021

Hi Swashata and welcome to the wonderful world of AVOYP.
Once you get the bug it is hard to shake off.
:wink:
My main comment is that for two months in you are doing fine - especially as you have gone slightly ahead and stolen that G chord from a more advanced lesson.
What @DavidP says about a constant motion with your strumming hand is so important. You have that and you have a good rhythm / strum pattern going on. Slightly fluctuating tempo but that is no big worry and can be easily sorted within your practice routine focusing on keeping time, playing to a metronome or drum beat etc.
Without muting, the chords became rather ‘muddy’ and bled their sound in to one another. I would suggest you play with a cleaner tone. The distortion hides some of the good technique you have already developed. And the distortion will also mask any mistakes you may make - misplaced fingers etc.
Clean sounds are your friends when you are learning and practicing for real.
Turn the volume and distortion up at the end of your practice session if it turns you on and blast it our for kicks and fun!
:sunglasses:
Good first entry to this new ‘safe space’ - kudos and good vibes for that.

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Hi Richard,

Thank you very much for your advice. I really enjoy the strumming and I do it all the time, like when scratching my dogs or just on my tummy, lol.

Without muting, the chords became rather ‘muddy’ and bled their sound in to one another. I would suggest you play with a cleaner tone. The distortion hides some of the good technique you have already developed. And the distortion will also mask any mistakes you may make - misplaced fingers etc.
Clean sounds are your friends when you are learning and practicing for real.

I don’t really understand this! Are you talking about the amp setting? I keep it on clean when practising, this time recording the video I put it on crunch, everything else is turned off. I have a boss katana 50 mk2. In my guitar, both the knobs are for volume and turned all the way up. All these settings are very confusing for me, so I tend to not fiddle with them a lot :sweat_smile:. I really need to watch the amp video series.

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There are some good lessons on youtube about Katana 50 MKII even on Boss official channel. What I would suggest which is in line with Richard’s comment is putting Clean tone instead of crunch and having Gain knob somewhere in the middle. That way you will have clean tone without any distorion.

As for play what others said pretty much summarizes my thoughts. You did well and you have some good habits already. Well done!

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Hi Swashata welcome on congrats of your first recording post. Thought you did very well, considering the length of time you have been learning. Lots of good advice above but certainly a good starting point on which you can develop the song.

Cheers

Toby :sunglasses:

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Hey Swas,

Like David, I just read your first post, and now you’ve shared your first AVOYP.
Very well done mate! Kudos to you!

Sharing where you’re at is going to help you out ALOT.

For 2 months in, you’re going very well. Nothing much to add technically, as these have already been noted by some more experienced folk on here.
I like your strumming and rhythm at 2 months though. Rhythm is king.

Cheers mate.

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@swashata - Well done, especially for only two months of practice. I can’t add anything to others’ comments, but will say that I agree that “rhythm is king” and learning to keep good time and keep that strumming hand in motion is critical. Even very simple things will sound good when played with good timing. You’re on the right path and doing well, so keep it up!

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You’re doing really well, Swashata. Lots of good suggestions already so I just wanted to say you have a very good sense of rhythm, and that’s a very good starting place. I look forward to hearing more from you.

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Good for you on pushing and trying things that are well ahead of the current modules you are working on. In time you will come across lessons that teach you to pick just the bass note of a chord and then strum the full chord, typically the thinner strings.

I don’t know this song, so not sure of the chord in the song is D/F# or just D. Irrespective, being able to mute the open low E string when playing a D chord in particular (because a D chord doesn’t include the note E but no need to worry about the theory yet). It took me 4 years to reach the point where I could do that and play the D/F# chord. So I’d say keep practising that mute when you play D and can do the same when playing C and A, though catching the open E doesn’t sound as bad on those chords. But just because you can mute the low E, don’t let that prevent you from working on strumming accuracy ie only strumming strings 1-4 on the D chord, 1-5 on C and A chords.

Yup. He is suggesting that you make your recordings to share here with the same clean setting that you use for practice.

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Hey Swas. I enjoyed your first recording. Well done; and only after two months in! It’s good to hear from beginners. You get great advise from community members and it helps me, and hopefully others, to be reminded of these tips. One tip I will take in, is from @adi_mrok concerning the Gain at center on the Boss amp.

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Thanks Adi, and I will roger that. I am only realizing it now, the gain is all the way down, so thank you for the tip!


Thank you very much Toby for the encouragement. It really means a lot to me. I am very eager to learn those power chords and jump in :grin:


Thank you very much Sclay, J.W.C and Mari. Your words really mean the world to me! I do find that I tend to increase the tempo. I am a bit nervous and excited at the same time, but I will keep on practicing.


Thank you David. I will keep that in mind when practicing.

Understood!

I really really want to learn the power chords (it’s for the song) and this is the encouragement I needed. I am a little impatient learner from my childhood, hehe. I have been practicing two 10-15 mins slots daily through the app, with additional 30 mins to 1hr playing time scattered throughout the day. In the initial stages, the finger pain was really stopping me, but I don’t get that now, especially with the electric guitar, the gauge is super low (0.009 and it came with the factory), the action is super low, just lovely. I wish I had heard Justin’s advice before buying the acoustic one. Anyway, I guess I will need another week or two to finish Grade 1 and it won’t hurt to jump a little to the power chords and assign the second slot of my practice for that?


Thanks pkboo, and yeah the gain was indeed all the way down. I am really not at a stage where I understand all these by just listening, but I will keep on practicing :smile:


And THANK YOU very much to all the members. You are all really AWESOME and very encouraging. I feel great to be a part of this community!!

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Welcome to JG! This was well done…I don’t have much to offer that hasn’t already been said and look forward to your future posts!

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David’s comment is not referring to power chords - which will come along in Grade 2 module 12…
It refers to a certain way of playing open chords where you pluck a single string first then strum across the other strings that make up the chord.

A lot of people will advise you to be patient and take eachstage as it comes, steady and true. I will advise the same. Power chords will come - in time. :slight_smile:

It’s great that you’ve started your record of learning and progress swashata. I can’t add to the advise that’s been given, but I can encourage you to keep going.

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Your practice routines sound just right, so keep on keeping on. I’d just guard against rushing through the lessons of each module too fast, developing a “let me finish this lesson, so I can get to the next one” mindset. Make sure that you are solid on each module, able to complete the practice routines and meet the suggested criteria of each module. This is the foundation on which everything is built.

Start building up your repertoire of songs. Perhaps record a few more of the songs suggested in the modules.

I’d also suggest you mix things up and play both the acoustic and the electric. If the acoustic is really difficult to play perhaps check the action and get it properly set up by a luthier.

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Thanks David, I have actually realised that over practicing could lead to burn out. Today only my fingers hurt a little. I finally nailed the “Get Lucky” on the app and it sounds so good, I went super crazy. But I think I will take it slow for a few days and will record and upload here :metal:.

About the acoustic guitar, I made a bad decision. I bought it way back in 2018, a yamaha F310, fiddled for a week, then packed it for many years. In October this year I took it out, found the bridge is coming off the body and the body itself was swollen. Took it to my local repair shop and they did horrible service. Fixed it up with very cheap strings too, and they actually told me that d’addario strings are bad :rofl:. They just tried to leech some more money from me.

Anyway, I started with the Yousician app with whatever I had, played for a month. Then a friend suggested I re-string with lighter gauge, which made it a little better. But since the body is still swollen, the action is very high. I was loosing interest really, but very glad that came across Justin. I persisted with the systematic modules and eventually the pain went away. Finally bought the schecter guitar on 17th this month and now I am enjoying to the fullest, sometimes a little more, hehe.

So I guess, my acoustic guitar is gone, even if I find a good luthier, the charges would be more than the price of the guitar. I will see if I can buy a new one in coming months, but for now I essentially have only one!

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@swashata

What an unfortunate experience, Swashata. That is a pity as I think an F310 is decent acoustic to learn on, I recall it being the first acoustic of a few people in the Community.

No need to rush into buying another acoustic. If you are loving the electric, enjoying yourself that is fine. One fine day you may have the urge to play acoustic and then you can pursue that.

Keep on rocking and look forward to a recording of “get Lucky” :metal:

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This is sound advice here.

This is primarily aimed at swashata Dont know if my rudimentary forums skills are able to pick out DavidPs’ response in a quote. We will see.

I learned the chords initially in my late teens and had no issues since then, doing them. Even after 30 years off i am able to finger them without fretbuzz and mute appropriate base notes with thumb when needed.

What i lack is the sustained strumming effort and timely chord changes for a 3 min effort. I can strum for 3 min. That is not a problem. My issue is keeping it in time for the whole effort and keeping hold of the pick.

Grade 1 without the song app to play along with got boring really quickly and i moved up to grade 2 out of boredom only to be told by my own playing that i was not ready to move up yet. I was not able to strum consistently enough to warrant a move up in grade. I only moved up cos i thought i was, arrogantly, above the grade 1 since i am able to finger chords perfectly and know how to fret the chords by heart ect.

Playing music is more than just being able to finger the chords without fretbuzz ect. We have to be able to play consistently over a longer time period with nearly no gaps in time or loss of sound on chord changes.

I do have the song app, and the metronome app, now so i will start all over again even if i am able to pass many sections of the white grade that pertain to how to fret certain chords. I had previously given not much effort to the songs in grade 1 cos i am “better” than a 1 downstrum on 4 beats in a bar Three little birds song. How wrong i was. How can i expect to keep time and consistent effort in woderwall if i am not even willing to commit to the basic skills needed to to strum all downstrums on an easier song?

Moving up to grade two out of boredom and not having the song app to help was a SERIOUSLY humbling experience. Yeah, you are not as good as you think you are kind of experience.

Dont be in a rush to leave white grade is what i am trying to say.

EDIT…i have to edit this and post the part of DavidPs’ response that i was commenting on since the quote did nor for some reason
This what he wrote:

Your practice routines sound just right, so keep on keeping on. I’d just guard against rushing through the lessons of each module too fast, developing a “let me finish this lesson, so I can get to the next one” mindset. Make sure that you are solid on each module, able to complete the practice routines and meet the suggested criteria of each module. This is the foundation on which everything is built.

Start building up your repertoire of songs. Perhaps record a few more of the songs suggested in the modules.

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Thank you @DavidP. I will keep on practicing on the electric for now.

Thank you pinkyisbroken for sharing your journey with me. I understand what you’re saying. I do play at-least 1 song every module and if I like another song, I play it too. You’re absolutely right, at first I had lots of trouble staying in sync (I still do, if I haven’t practiced the song for 3-4 days) and changing the chords for a long time. But yes, practice is indeed needed. So I will stick to the routine.

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Swashata- all I can say is WOW!
I’ve now been playing for 1 week and I hope that I will be playing as well as you after 2 months.

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Hi @Angel1, I am really glad to have inspired you. I have received loads of feedback and help from this forum. People here are amazing and just ask when you’re in any trouble. Just practice and play for 30 mins to 1hr a day and I am sure you’ll play far better than me very soon. I will be waiting for your video here.

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