Consolidation

As a mature learner of 7 months or so -(65-with slow fingers) I have just reached grade 3 and am wondering whether i should just stay here a good long while and enjoy what i`ve learned. . After all, there are a thousand songs to be played with just the chords/technique/strumming already learned. I have come to the realisation that i am never going to play leads (or shred?) on a guitar. I feel I should spend my time trying to perfect these techniques instead of trying to learn new things. Does anyone else feel the same or am I being defeatist.? Thanks

Hi Tom,
The number of months youā€™ve been working means nothing, the number of hours per day is a lot better because 15 minutes or 6 hours a day makes a difference ā€¦ and then of course the quality of practice etc etc.

Consolidating is very important, but neither is getting boredā€¦ and no matter how many hours you practice a day, donā€™t ā€¦no never give up playing lead. :face_with_raised_eyebrow: :smiley:
Youā€™ve only been around for such a short time and in my first year I couldnā€™t hope i played licks like sometimes happened in the 2nd year and more. :smiley:
Greetings and more then importantā€¦remember that you are doing what you likeā€¦and learn songs (and licks :blush:) and keep it fun,
:guitar:

2 Likes

After Justin I got a live teacher.

1 Like

@roger_holland I get it :grinning:
Sometimes i feel like I maybe in too much of a hurry for my own good.

1 Like

Not Me Not Me :roll_eyes: :grin:

:shushing_face: I forgot how quickly I went through all the videos on this site, but in the first few months I easily did 6 to 8 hours of video a day with guitar in hand :see_no_evil:
Greetings

2 Likes

Wow. Now thatā€™s quick to do Grades 1 and 2!

@Stuartw Thats what I thought-- expecting too much too quickly

Did you learn and can perform the stuff in the lessons? If yes, then you are going a good speed!

I struggle with impatience as well. I hear a song and want to be a part of it, but just donā€™t have the capability. I need to balance moving forward with proficiency of performing building blocks.

Look at what you want to play that is appropriate for grade 2 - can you do it? If something is in really bad shape, then consolidate that item. If it just needs a bit of polish, then maybe it is ok to keep moving ahead with lessons.

Look through the lesson descriptions for grade 3. Is there something there that you really want to be capable of? Does it need one of your weak points to be improved before you can expect to learn it? I often use this as a guide for moving on.

3 Likes

I reached the same level a few months back after completing grade 3 - wanting to jump into finger picking and blues technique with which Iā€™ve dabbled. I decided to go back through many of the level two and three lessons, often several times, until I could say Iā€™ve got a good handle on actually doing what is taught. Still doing that work. Iā€™m finding itā€™s much easier just to play now, not stumbling with basic techniques. Keep consolidating.

2 Likes

Hi. Dont worry .i am 73 and play slowly on new stuff. The practice will make you better. I did get impatient as well. You wl jimprove over time. Phil

1 Like

thats amazingly fast for grades 1 and 2. :scream:

@LesPaulMoreRay so i`m coming to realise-too quick perhaps

If you can play 10 songs (strumming open chords) from memory youā€™re not going to fast. If you canā€™t then itā€™s time to slow down and use what youā€™ve learnt to make music.

2 Likes

So I see youā€™re a lefty from Scotland. Me too. Born on the other side of the country in Prestwick. U.S. Air Force brat. Iā€™ve never been back but would love to.

1 Like

Oooo crxp ,I did not know thatā€¦ now all my hopes are gone ā€¦ :joy:

And maybe not :smiley:ā€¦ I certainly sometimes look back at lessons from grade 2, but I went faster than you and Iā€™m quite satisfied with what Iā€™m playing nowā€¦ so enjoy, consolidate and watch a little further in grade 3 and check what Justin says about " when to move on to the next step" at the end of grade 2
Greetings

1 Like

I first discovered Justin probably around 15 years ago! After many false starts and ā€œlay-offsā€ , completing the original beginners course, then starting from scratch with the new course after one of those ā€œlay-offsā€ that was years long, Iā€™ve finally got to grade 3, where Iā€™ve been sitting on module 19 for what must be about 6 months; Iā€™ve decided not to move on yet because I still have one exercise from module 17, and one from module 18, in my practice routine that I just canā€™t nail. Once I sort that out, and get the mod 19 transcribing out of the way, then Iā€™ll be ready to move on. I guess what Iā€™m saying is that everyone moves at their own speed; give a motivated 16-year old a guitar, an amp and a broadband connection, and theyā€™ll be playing lead lines and shredding like a pro inside 6 months. For us dinosaurs though, it doesnā€™t come as easy, and my feeling is that at our age, slow and steady wins the race. Iā€™m happy to be the tortoise rather than the hare, Iā€™ll sit where I am on the course until I feel confident that the new stuff in the next module is only just out of my comfort zone.

Slow and steady progress, yes: but donā€™t let perfect be the enemy of good enough!

2 Likes

Lotā€™s of famous guitarists from Scotland, Rogier. Unfortunately Iā€™m not one of them :roll_eyes:

@stitch is spot on itā€™s about applying what you have learned from the grades well. Some folk have more time to practice, some pick things up faster than others. As long as you can honestly play well the things you have learned so far youā€™re not moving to fast. If you canā€™t then you need to slow down and consolidate everything you have learned so far and donā€™t get ahead of yourself trying to rush through the course.

Not necessarily. You may enjoy putting on a backing track and improvising over it.

2 Likes

Hi Tom,
For me, itā€™s all about playing music. The course-ware just helps me develop skills to play more music and play better. If youā€™re interested in lead, donā€™t give up. Playing lead lines does not require you to be a shredder. There are many songs that have interesting lead parts , riffs, licks, and fills that are fun to learn and play that donā€™t require blazing speed. You might be surprised at how much you can do when you are motivated by a song you like combined with practice and patience.
Iā€™m 71 and Iā€™ve been playing regularly in the current phase of my guitar life for ~5 years (I learned as a teen so this gave me a bit of boost in starting up again). For the last year or so, Iā€™ve spent 75% of my guitar time learning and playing songs. I still put time into learning new skills and music theory but at a relatively slower pace. My primary goal is to play music and have fun and Iā€™m achieving that every day.

Youā€™re ONLY 65 and already well into your journey. Assuming your goal is to play music, I agree with Rickā€™s @stitch way to measure you progress. And filling in for @Richard_close2u , ā€˜Play songs, play songs, play songs.ā€™

3 Likes

Thanks everyoneā€”gives me some clarity :grinning:

Tom, Iā€™d like to add (or amplify if I missed it scanning the replies) is to make some recordings playing songs. By the end of Grade 2 Iā€™d lean towards that being solo ie not with the app or over an orginal backing. Nothing wrong with either of those, just looking for the cleanest, clearest approach to get feedback on the level of proficiency achieved.

My thinking being that by the end of Grade 2, you should be able to play a few songs if somebody put a guitar in your hand at a gathering. Strumming need not be just like the original ie kept simple and chords may not have all the embellishments and other fancy stuff. Singing is optional.

As for lead play/shredding. I think fair to say, that few of us here will reach the levels of the musicians who play the music we love and would like to play. So if you enjoy lead play, the fact that you may never shred like should not put you have learning and developing some lead/improv chops.

2 Likes