AI is on the agenda for the team and further discussion in the new year … with decision(s) made about an approach that could work within the community soon.
its just that asking to respect justin’s rights to copyrights and not the rights of other artists is like saying : do what I say not what I do !
You just had to say ‘Candyman’ and summon it, didn’t you…
I’m not sure I agree that one excludes the other in the black & white manner you see it Deborah.
The announcement I wrote yesterday was placed due to a copyright infringement of Justin’s material posted in the JustinGuitar Community.
It is specific and it is direct and it is concerned only with Justin’s work. But, in having only that tight focus, it is not granting permission for copyright infringement of anything that is not of Justin’s work.
We’re all thievin’ scoundrels in one way or another. Its all been said, its all been done, and none of us are gettin’ out of here alive anyway.
I just play my Blues, and wait for the inevitable zombie apocalypse to come for us all…
Happy New Year
© All rights unreserved…
Hehe, I spent a couple of hours yesterday, cutting and pasting a musicians voice for a song, to give it a completely unintended meaning…
I will come clean of course, but do hope he doesn’t sue
Ai was built on stolen material from thousands of artists ( and keeps on doing it )
its just turning a blind eye on it and being concerned only on your own issue
Dont ask for respect ( of copyrights ) if you do no respect the copyright infrigement of others
Issue aside, what AI are you referring to (that is on this site)?
That issue isn’t quite as settled as you make it seem. Yes, a lot of copyright material goes into the training data that large models are trained upon. But that doesn’t automatically make it copyright infringement, there is the (unsettled) argument of whether this constitutes fair use (or not).
For example, all modern language translation implementations use large natural language models, trained on huge corpus of texts, including (copyrighted) news articles and books. I haven’t heard anyone claiming copyright infringement just because copyrighted text was fed in as training data.
What you’re saying starts making more sense in the specific case of generative models, where the algorithm produces a seemingly novel piece of text / image / audio. But that’s a very specific application of AI.
So why is Disney then investing heavily in AI initiatives? Do they plan on stealing material from thousands of artists? There is more than one shade of blue.
This topic is about taking material from a premium course and sharing it publicly not about AI.
Actually, IMO, yes. To be precise, they want to be the ones (and ideally the only one) doing the “stealing”. It’s just a matter of time (probably when generative art / music becomes commercially viable) before they start suing other AI companies, using their intellectual property portfolio as a weapon.
Anyway, let’s not get too far into the weeds. I don’t see any use of generative AI on this site (apart from the paid for portions which I have no access to), but do let me know if I’ve missed something.
I can think of only one realistically controversial situation—if a BLIM student records a video of himself performing some of Justin’s materials (where the focus is on their performance of a specific piece of Justin’s music, and not a wholesale upload of all of Justin’s materials in video form) and uploads it for public viewing… technically (but IANAL) that’s also copyright infringement, but one that I would personally feel somewhat uncomfortable seeing enforced. Maybe @Richard_close2u can clarify.
You ve clearly missed things
its not because you ve not heard of it that it doesnt exists
Where on this site is generative AI used? You say I’ve missed something, so where is it?
If you read what I said in context, I was specifically talking about the application of AI in language translation. Let me repeat: I haven’t heard of any successful copyright infringement lawsuit against any machine translation implementation. I’m happy to be proven wrong, but the links you’ve provided do not refer to machine translation models.
The reason I brought up language translation is simply to provide an example to prove the point that merely using copyrighted data as training data does not in itself constitute copyright infringement.
My health does not allow me to debate …; muted topic since anyway it will go nowhere
I just marvel at your brilliance and creativity, Brian, and how you use it
Haha, the ‘marveling’ might stop when you hear it…
A target audience of two and quite possibly will upset both
fwiw,
I’ve written two long comments on this thread. They were kinda negative responses. I’ve erased my comments and will leave it at this.
I think I’ll lay low over this.
The fun for me at this point is diminishing. I will have to think long and hard as to whether I will post up any music I play as it is all likely copyright infringement. Let alone posting any question about written music by someone else.
This isn’t what I thought I’d get from this website. But it does seem to be where I’m landing at.
HappyCat is vanishing before my eyes.
@Richard_close2u Can I suggest this thread gets closed now, as it has no real context since being extracted from your original post. Especially with the opening post and has little to do with the original subject.