Electric guitar build diary - maybe I'll come up with a name for it eventually

Got a cardboard mockup of the uke taken care of, and the wife approves.

Drew out the parts onto the foamboard for 3d models but haven’t cut the parts out yet.

Started submitting orders for some of the major parts for both instruments. Bridges, tuners (for the guitar), and so on. Will order the uke neck this week and also try to get the uke pickups ordered. If I don’t hear from the guy who is winding his own mandolin pickups, then I’ll probably just buy the Seymour Duncan mandolin pickup. I’m holding off on the Seymour Duncan pickups for my guitar until I have a better answer for the uke, since I’ll be able to save on a little shipping by ordering them together.

Also bought a drill press stand for a hand-held drill.
Milescraft 1318 DrillMate Portable Drillling Guide – Precision Drilling Jig Attachment for Drilling Angled or Straight Holes, Adjustable Drill Guide Attachment, Portable Drill Press with 3/8ā€ Chuck - Amazon.com
A drill press isn’t something I can rent from the local tool warehouse, but this will do what I need it to do. I think it’ll also come in handy to help me make the wooden control knobs for the simple fact that it can hold the drill. But mostly I’ll be using it with a forstner bit to start the pickup and control cavities.

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Sweet. Big purchase. The whole project prep is coming along. Those drill press type things work pretty good too. :call_me_hand:t2:

When I saw that thing, it got me to thinking of all the times it would have been really useful and a lot more accurate than eyeballing the tiny bubble level in my drill.

The way I figure, even if my work on the instrument bodies is terrible, I’ll just be able to get a different piece of wood and re-do them. But if I do a nice job, then we’ll have some really nice instruments. My rough math is telling me I’m probably going to spend about $2k or maybe a little less between both the guitar and the uke. And going off what I’ve been seeing, those instruments would sell for around $1k-$1500 for the uke and somewhere between $3k and $6k for the guitar.

Just placed an order for some walnut turning blanks. I would have loved to get some ā€œhighly figuredā€ wood, but the dimensions for turning blanks were too close to what I want to wind up with for an end product than I’m comfortable with. It’s WAY more wood than I need, but it at least gives me enough to work with and experiment with. Making the turquoise/resin tops is going to take a little experimentation.

I think I might send some of that wood over to my dad for the rough-ish turning. He’s got an actual wood lathe. If they’re at least roughed in, I’ll be able to make the tops and do the finish sanding with my drill. I was looking into my own little lathe setup and I suppose I could get a tiny little cheapo thing but I’d rather not buy a piece of junk that’ll mostly just take up space. Postage for a small turning blank will be a lot better and his bigger lathe with better tools will give a better end product.

Still trying to dig up info about uke pickups. It’s weird. I find all kinds of posts from people building a solid-body electric uke but getting sound samples of whatever pickups people use has not been easy. The only one I’ve found so far is from a guy who hacked up a p-bass pickup for his flying v electric uke.

I can’t find anyone talking about using the Seymour Duncan vintage mandolin pickup.
Seymour Duncan Antiquityā„¢ Mandolin Pickup | Seymour Duncan

I’ve found people mentioning this guy as an option, but nobody describing how these sound.
Pickups

The sound samples I’ve found from some of the cigar box pickups are uninspiring, to be honest. Some sound pretty good but it’s not clear what’s going on. A lot of them sound pretty weak. I may wind up needing to just take a flyer and just pick something.

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Got a response from Steve Ryder just now which is great because I’ve been leaning towards his pickups. I fired off some questions for him about pickup choices.

So the design I’m going to get my neighbor to laser engrave onto the headstocks is going to be some variation on this:

I need to convert it over to a vector graphic and while I’m at it, I think I’m going to go with more open eyes. Such as here (but I don’t like this angle as much for this purpose). The idea I want to convey is that the owl is looking out of its roost cavity, which is inside the headstock.

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Just an initial mockup using an online tool. Going to see if this would be good for my neighbor to use or if they’d need some adjustments to it. I think it’s fantastic and looks better than I expected with the squinty eyes. I thought I might want at least one open eye, if not both.

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I like that!

Haha thats pretty cool. If you were going for a metal guitar :sign_of_the_horns:t2:or if you wanted to make a statment :person_shrugging:t3: you could consider putting a mouse in his beak. Nothing says metal like a bird of prey about to eat its freshly caught meal.

Just a thought. :laughing:

For this particular owl it would be more suitable to use frogs or songbirds instead of mice. I’ve only seen 1 rodent stashed in the box. But it murdered the entire wood frog population in the pond behind my house in one night. And it has stashed a number of different songbirds in there at different times (starling, eastern bluebird, cedar waxwing).

Eastern Screech-owl Caching Wood Frogs in Roost Box

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I’ve been putting together a shopping cart of the misc bits (mostly electronics and finishing supplies) for a ā€œfinalā€ order. Most of it isn’t anything I need immediately, but the long drill bits will be important for the wiring channels. That’s still a bit off yet so this order won’t be a rush.

I’ve been mulling over what to do about the control cavity cover (I’m going to try to do this with just a single cavity for each instrument) and call me crazy but I think I want to try to make a cover out of some 1/8" walnut and use teeny rare-earth magnets to attach it. Would match nicely with the walnut on the control knobs.

I do want to have a roadmap in mind for the steps I need to take throughout the process, so I’ve been looking ahead. I have in mind the sort of finish I want but I wasn’t exactly sure how to get there. And of course I’ve read about spalted woods needing special treatment so I wanted to dig deeper there, too. I think I chose a good slab. Enough spalting to give some visual pop. But everything feels really solid still. I can’t find any spongy/soft bits. That bodes well for my finishing options, as so far it seems like I’m not going to need to do anything special to harden the wood. With that in mind, I am planning to use Tried & True Original (linseed oil & beeswax). Everything I’m reading tells me it provides the best ā€œfeelā€, and is fairly easy to apply, though it takes a LOT of patience to get a suitable finish. I can work with that.

Shielding/grounding is going to be a ā€œfunā€ subject to do a deep dive on.

I’m no expert, but he two holes in the center of each of the slender dark areas make me think this is ambrosia maple. The holes being made by the ambrosia beetle. Spalted maple has lots of squiggly black lines and is caused by a fungus.

The Schaller is a nice looking bridge. The string spacing adjustability could come in handy if some other piece of the neck geometry puzzle is off a bit. Not having to drill the string through holes is an another nice feature. There are not a lot of ā€œtop loadingā€ bridges out there.

Based on the price, I was skeptical about this ā€œtop loaderā€ bridge from Musiclily, but it was well made! Fixed string spacing though.

Hipshot also make very high quality locking tuner you may want to consider as an alternative. They also sell alternative buttons if you want a custom look.

Oh, and wise choice for your headstock logo :wink:

Ah, I’m no expert, either. Guess I need to dig up the details. After some reading and looking at the piece, it does look like it’s ambrosia maple. Apparently a piece of wood can be both, but based on descriptions I read about the two, I don’t see the spalting. Cool!

Yeah, the full adjustability of that Schaller bridge was attractive to me, allowing me to adjust for possible sloppiness on my end. I wasn’t necessarily opposed to string through holes, but I’m not unhappy to be avoiding them.

I did end up ordering the Ratio locking tuners. I like locking tuners - my Les Paul has Grovers. But I specifically wanted to give the Ratio tuners a go because I’m intrigued by the gear ratios being different to even out tuning adjustments such that it’ll take roughly the same number of turns to get the same change in pitch on all the strings. The finicky tuning of the low strings is annoying at times.

I’m thinking about having that same image engraved on the neck plate, also.

The walnut turning blanks I ordered just arrived. One of the pieces in particular has some beautiful quilting.

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Who needs tonewood? Why’d I buy that fancy slab, anyway? Foamboard will do the job just fine. Might need a little reinforcement, but that’s not a big deal, right?

Got my 3d models sculpted up today. I’m quite happy with the shape of the guitar and my wife is pretty happy with the shape of the uke. Big thing to figure out now is control layout so I can get the control cavities figured out. I’ve been wanting to keep things fairly simple and just buy control cavity templates. I might be able to do that for the uke just fine, but I don’t know if that’ll work for my guitar. I’m using controls that don’t seem terribly common and the only layouts and templates I’ve seen for that are in a youtube video where the guy drew them up by hand and made his template custom right there in the vid. I think I’m going to have to do the same.

I’m seen some general-ish cavity templates that include the template for the cover (exactly what I’m after) but the measurements for them haven’t been quite detailed enough for me to decide if they’ll work for what I want to do.

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Did some planing and some rough sanding (to remove the tool marks).

The character of the wood is starting to stand out a bit more. And that’s only after some 40 grit sandpaper, so the surface is still pretty rough!

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Wow thats going to pop when it gets some finish. I bet it loooks sick. :sign_of_the_horns:t2::sign_of_the_horns:t2:

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Wow, very nice!

I really love the look of this!

I’ve decided that I’m ultimately going to seal the wood with epoxy. There’s a little bit of cracking at the wide end of the slab and no matter what I do I won’t be able to avoid the cracks entirely. The widest is maybe 0.5mm, so they’re small. But I don’t want them getting worse.

I’ve been researching a variety of different products and I think the TotalBoat penetrating epoxy is going to do what I need. I think what I’ll do is pour some into the cracks/checks before I cut anything out to make sure those get stabilized. Sounds like if I use my heat gun to heat up the wood around the cracks (before pouring) that the epoxy will flow a bit better and penetrate the wood more (and therefore stabilize it better). And then once I get the bodies cut out and trimmed into their shapes, do a thin seal coat over the entire thing (which would then get sanded). Sounds like after sanding, the only remaining epoxy will be in the wood pores (and bug holes) and along with the oil finish to give the guitar an exceptionally smooth and buttery feel.

I’m having a bit of a router bit mini-crisis right now, too. Not sure how I missed it, but the bearing flush trim bit I got to trim the body to the template is a 1/2" shank and won’t fit the trim router I bought myself (that one has a 1/4" shank). The router I rented is supposed to have a collet for a 1/2" shank, but that part is missing. It only has its 1/4" collet. So sometime between today and Saturday I’m going to need to get in touch with the tool library to make sure I can rent a router that actually has a 1/2" collet. I think I should be able to cut out the instrument bodies to shape next week. I plan to have the templates rough cut this week and I can spend the time sanding them to their final shapes over the weekend while the epoxy in the cracks cures. So assuming it doesn’t take the epoxy a week to cure, I’ll be routing the guitar body shapes. They do have a couple router tables and one of those might make doing the perimeter shape cut a lot easier.

So the other flush trim bit I’ve ordered has been ā€œdelayedā€ (apparently indefinitely). It was supposed to have arrived on Friday last week. eyeroll So I think I’m going to have that order cancelled. I’ve shopped around and I’ve found at least one alternative at a store in another part of town. There’s also a woodworking shop down there that might also have one in stock. I don’t need this bit immediately, but I do want to have it when I actually need it rather than be sitting around with my thumbs up my @$$.

The uke pickups also got delivered today. Wife better not complain - she’s getting hand-wound made-to-order pickups in her uke.

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Decided to change strategies. I was working on MDF routing templates yesterday and noticed that the lack of precision of the sanding bits I was using in my drill were going to make for a crappy router template. I decided that what I needed to make sure the edges were good was an oscillating drum sander. Easy enough to check one out from the tool library. But at that point, what’s the purpose of using a router on those templates, anyway?

I decided when I returned the router (whose collet wasn’t the right size for the bit I would use) that I would pick up the sander and I would just sand the maple down to shape. I’d practice on the MDF templates and then just use them to trace onto the maple.

I worked on the uke body first because if I completely wrecked it, I have enough wood to make a couple more. I only have enough of the slab wide enough for the guitar body for a single one and barely even that. I was able to get the uke body mostly sanded down to the basic shape today. All that’s left is the area where the neck pocket will be, and for that I’m just going to hand sand it.

The uke neck also came, so I got to lay them out to get a general idea of what it’s going to look like. Ooooohhhh, it’s looking good!

For anyone wanting to do a low cost guitar build, I can strongly recommend the Musically products. I recently completely renovated a very cheap and in bad condition Squier tele.

I used Musically parts (brass saddles and locking tuners). They were super cheap but had good reviews and since it was a low cost re-build I bought them. I have been very impressed with the quality of those parts for a fraction of the cost of well known brands. In fact, I even replaced the Gotoh saddles on my high-end Strat build with the brass Musically saddles because they were really good.

There was really nothing wring with these parts, despite the amazingly cheap price. I would definitely use them again. The locking tuners have been really good.

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