but ā¦ whoās guitar is out of tune ???
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I guess weāll find out in everyoneās next AVOYP post 
! I better tune my guitar now as I am about to start my practice session.
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Hey Tod, I used to play the trumpet in my teens. They have a tuning slide to adjust the tuning, but trumpets often sound out of tune - at least mine did. Operator error?
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6th, 7th & 8th grade bandā¦ trumpetā¦
I realized one day that I wasnāt ever going to sound like Louis Armstrongā¦
About the time I discovered girls!!!
āNuff said.
Tod
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And if I were to say to you āthat sounded terrible! Do you even know what a tuner is?ā would you take that as constructive, factual feedback, or might you be offended?
My point is that itās possible to be abrasive about something as objective as a guitar being out of tune.
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There is an undertone associated with such a comment that the player is unable to detect that they are out of tune, ergo, it infers that one is lacking in a fundamental skill.
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Of course, one shouldnāt be unnecessarily rude to others, but in this case, tuning the guitar before recording isnāt, IMO, a skill but something that should be the first thing to do. Like wiping your muddy shoes on a mat before you enter the house.
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I watched the section of the video where Tommy and Molly discuss playing in tune (starting at 10:24). Based on Tommyās words before (record yourselfā¦listen to what youāre doing and the sounds your making), and his specific words āGet used to the sound of being really in tuneā¦spend time tuningā¦find all the idiosyncrasies in your guitar and get the damn thing in tuneā, and his body language indicating the entire neck of the guitar, I had a slightly different interpretation. In addition to the message to tune your guitar, I think he was implying that you have to make sure your intonation correct on your instrument. Donāt get used to playing an instrument that is out of tune with itself. Then Molly agrees.
Just yesterday I picked up a guitar I havenāt played in a while, and realized the intonation is out. This is typical with seasonal changes, of course. But many people (especially, but not only beginners) donāt know this, and I wouldnāt have thought to check it except that weāre all nerds here and, I got a new capo that I wanted to check out, and, well, Iāve learned. Honestly, my ear is not yet good enough to hear it. I may try adjusting it myself, but thereās a good chance that guitar will be visiting the tech next week.
So a person may get pissy because, well, they just tuned their guitar, but itās not set up properly and they donāt know any better, they havenāt developed their ear, and now someone is telling them they havenāt done something that they (think) they just did. Pointing all of this out to them is a wonderful thing to do. Doing it kindly is the way to do it.
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problem is : we dont all have access to a tech or luthier
mine is 75 kms away , an expensive and tiring trip
How did you know?
How do you check this as I donāt think that I have checked this on any of my guitars ever.
Play each string open and ensure it is in tune. Then fret the strings at the 12th fret and repeat, if they are sharp or flat at the 12th fret your intonation needs adjusting. And also means when you play higher up the neck the notes will be out of tune.
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Hi @Stuartw
A fast way to verify intonation is to tune the open strings, then fret the 12th. You should get the same note on a tuner, just an octave higher.
If you fret too hard, you will pull the note out of tune, so try to fret the 12th properly.
I do this check every string change.
Ok , I just did that test and intonation is consistent. I tune my guitar daily, sometimes more often like when I play outdoors where the temperature and humidity are different (I live in the desert). I think I have a pretty good ear, as I can tell immediately if Iām out of tune, and when I tune the guitar, I can hear that the note is right before looking at the tuner to confirm.
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Hereās a short video on how to check and adjust intonation:
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Deb, it must be frustrating, not having resources nearby. While we do have local resources, I intend to learn to do many adjustments myself, and have gathered the tools and instructions to do so. I just havenāt carved out the time! Iām hoping it will be like changing strings - the first time seems to take forever, and it gets easier after that.
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good luck in trying 
it does not look easy
there is a shop where you can have some repairs done but not on guitars with a warranty ( If you ve bought the guitar online for example )
All the luthiers are in Lyon and its quite far away ā¦
I must not be the only one in this situation I think
We (guitarists in general) tend to use the term āluthierā loosely, I think. The sorts of adjustments Iām thinking of donāt require a guitar builder, but a technician. They are really part of maintenance and would not be covered under a manufacturerās warranty as I understand it. Iām writing this because: perhaps the shop you mention that does repairs is a good place for you to get these services!
Iāve often wished I could find a one- or two-afternoon class to learn how to do a guitar setup.
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For those unfamiliar Phillip McKnight he is a former music store owner who now runs a YouTube channel called Know Your gear. The main focus of the channel, as you might have guessed, itās all about guitars, amps, and and all of the related gear we use to make music.
While Phillip does from time to time do sponsored content and reviews he is about the most independent voice I have come across on YouTube and I personally consider him quite honest and trustworthy.
Why does this matter? Phillip is also wonder resource when it comes to maintaining, upgrading, or repairing your guitar. From simple things like string changes and hardware swaps to doing a full setup, if you have a guitar question heāll have an answer for you.
He also hosts a weekly live podcast that routinely draws over a 1,000 live viewers which looks at every aspect of the guitar industry.
I canāt recommend him and his channel enough.
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I just watched two of Phillipās videos based on a recommendation from @sequences. Phillip is excellent - concise and understandable explanations, and he doesnāt get into nuances that donāt apply to the situation heās addressing. I guess heās been mentioned before in the community, but thanks to both of you for pointing him out (again)!
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The guy who owns the local shop in Roanne is a guitarist himself and his does some maintenance on guitars
I brought my old guitar ( plonk plonk) to him once , and thats when he told me that he would not do it ( a set up ) on a guitar under warranty ( not bought in his store ) ā¦
So the only town left here is ā¦ Lyon
I want to buy an electro acoustic guitar so Ill go again and talk to him about it
I dont want to do almost 200 kms in a day just to try a 3/4 guitar in Lyon so Ill take my chance with this shop
dont know where you can find that 