I agree Bc you are doing ok take a break little bites often Cheers Hec
Good input all. Thank you for your time.
@judi I agree with you: Justin has serious pedagogical creds, and having been at this for more than a fifth of a century has figured out good pathways to work us nubes up to a “guitar playing nube” status. I think I will SIUYBB, (pronounced SIGH-oob) and work on increasing the independence of those pesky fingers 3 and 4
By chance I’ve been flicking through my Justin Christmas songbook tonight.
‘Walking in the Air’ has Am to G to Dm to F to Am. Don’t know if you’re into Christmas songs or not but I thought I’d throw it into the mix since you asked for songs with G to Dm.
Unfortunately, F doesn’t come up until grade 2 - ‘Walking in the Air’ will have to be for next Christmas
Of the common guitar-friendly keys (CAGED), I believe G and Dm are diatonic only in the key of C (where G is the V chord and Dm is the ii chord), and in my experience it’s pretty rare to find the G-Dm (or Dm-G) change in a song.
One that does come to mind is Norwegian Wood, which has a Dm to G change. Interestingly, Norwegian Wood is not in the key of C, but rather the key of D (I think) and Dm is a borrowed chord.
Anyway, I agree with the previous advice about learning something when you need it. I wouldn’t waste time learning G-Dm-G, unless I came across it in a song I wanted to learn. Then I would do the one-minute-changes (or whatever) to make it very solid so I can use it in the song.
Yes. A much more useful song than my 2 weeks a year Christmas example. It’s a slow change from Dm to G to Dm to Em to A.
I totally agree with the previous comments. Concentrate on chord changes you need for songs you want to learn. Don’t waste time on combinations that you don’t need/might never need.
BC @mundeli ,
Another consideration is Justin’s Mantra - Practice Make Permanent … if you lok in a bad technique, you’ll eventually have to break the bad habit & relearn… not a particularly effective use of your practice time!
Good luck & keep it FUN!
Tod
I have shared this advice more than once … for single chord formation and for changing between chords. It might help you. Not sure what to call this - problem with D minor chord - #3 by Richard_close2u
Yikes–how do you keep access to these links in your head!
Thank you for your most fine list presence.
There are some songs with changes to/from G and Dm:
Dylan - I Pity The Poor Immigrant
Neil Young - Four Strong Winds
This is a useful website if you want to look for particular chord changes.
The chorus for Californication has a progression of Am - C - G - Dm. I know because I still struggle with that G - Dm change and I continue to work on that song and still don’t have it down. I actually struggle with the Dm chord in general.
I’m definitely getting better with the change though the more I practice it. If you are going from the G with the fingering of third finger on the thin E string try moving 3rd finger to the B string for the Dm. If you are playing weak finger G with the pinky on the E string then try playing the Dm with the pinky on the B string. I find the pinky on the B string the easier of the two so that’s what I’ve been practicing.
Yes, I’ve been toying with alternate fingering–though when a chord is stretched out over 3 frets I find finger 3 really has a proclivity to hang out right next to finger 2, looking more like a malformed pincer than a chord formin’ machine. “More stretching exercises”, I tell myself, with a healthier dose of patience as leavening. Or, to quote the Wicked Witch (the 1939 version), “All in good time, my pretty, all in good time”.
By the by, it is reassuring for a newb like me to hear “well seasoned” folks commenting that they too struggle with a given fingering, or chord change. Not that “misery likes company” (I’m not miserable) but rather it gives me more reason to lighten the load of self disapprobation So thank you folks for your help.
Oh now, that is a really cool site. Thanks.
The deeper I go, the more I understand it it’ll always get still deeper (and I’m still on the surface now!)
You also pulled out two of my favorite songwriters…
It’s a journey with no end - that’s why I like it
I often wonder if I get too obsessive focusing on improving one thing, almost to the exclusion of all else. I have to say that for some strange reason I enjoy this but wonder if I am selling myself short in terms of speed of progress. I wonder if mixing things up more speeds progress not just overall but also on the one thing I obsessively try to get
Just put it into your practice routine and keep moving on. You still get your 2 or 3 mins of working it but you get to keep exploring and practicing other things. I am ADHD as it comes so I need structure. I would be screwed without makeing a set practice routine.
As a rank beginner, one of the things I’ve been doing is asking accomplished players for a single piece of advice to help on my journey (it’s also a great conversation starter with strangers who are so inclined). I was at a guitar store, and there was this high school aged kid, clearly pretty talented, checking out guitars.
His pearl:
when you’re stuck on something, be comfortable with leaving it alone for a while.
Digging deep into some buried treasure right there. LOL
Now that is an awesome site and great share! Bookmarked accordingly. My only nit is that listing out every permutation of chord progressions such as I-IV-V, sort of defeats the purpose of Nashville notation. As a result the song lists are duplicated (as expected).
EDIT: Second nit, no search by artist! Huge oversight. We could see all those Taylor Swift songs using the same progression in one place. LOL
Also on second blush, the songs are not duplicated to the extent as previously reported. So yeah, a master list by Nashville notation is needed.
EDIT2: No two chord songs.
EDIT2: No two chord songs.
Not quite true - there is a beginners section where you can find 2 chord songs:
It gives the option to search for 2 chord songs in G, D or A. For example:
Hope you find some that you like.
I stand corrected, and good to know. The primary search on the site requires three chords.
EDIT: How sad that two chord songs are considered beginner songs based on chord count alone. No allowance for technique, timing or skill required to play them with some added juice.