Yep pretty sure thatās what it will be
Hi , @batwoman and @jkahn
One day this wonāt read as if it says Chineseā¦Iāll save this topic for later referenceā¦
Hi Maggie ,Are you busy putting āthatā song on video and (apparently then) perfecting what I heard with that big message in it?..Iām burning with desire ,but the longer it takes the better it tastes ā¦good luck and have fun with the music recording thing stuff hassle ā¦
Greetings,Rogier
Maggie
Is the video of you singing captured in OBS, with the guitar audio fed into OBS from Reaper ? You can use ReaRoute to send Reaper audio to OBS and capture the video & sound in OBS. So if you have pre=recorded Guitar Tracks in Reaper, you just need to add a Vox track there and treat it as if you were just recording in Reaper. But using ReaRoute the Audio is sent to OBS.
If thatās what the plan is let me know and Iāll add the How. With family here I am behind on OM prep and just spent an hour figuring out with Zoom was not playing nicely with OBS ie No sound in Zoom and 36 hours to go. Yep normal drama. One of the OM tech posts has the details, so wonāt take me long to gran the info if that is what you want to do.
Cheers
Toby
How well you sum this up @roger_holland Rogier
@TheMadman_tobyjenner thanks. You seem to have rather enough to deal with right now, so letās leave it till after the OM. Iāll try a variation of what JK has suggested first. I hope you get your tech to work with you.
Maggie
As if by magic (well, after several reboots!) all is well and I sail towards the OM with gay abandon. So more than happy to help, as I have been down that road before. So no need to reinvent the wheel, I have a few laying around !
Cheers
Toby
I canāt help you with the techie stuff Maggie but this made me laugh out loud!
The one thing that I tried the other day was recording in both reaper and OBS. Then using Movavi Studio (cheap software) added both the Reaper and OBS output files then selected both audio part of OBS recording and Reaper recording then auto synched. Then detached and deleted the audio part from the OBS file on Movavi. It was a simple process and synchronisation seemed decent. It just needed to have something in common (and that could be the vocals) that is recorded on both OBS and Reaper to be able to sync against.
@Socio this made the wheels in my head spin a little bit too fast James, so Iāll come back to it later today when Iām older and wiser It sounds like a good idea. Thanks so much.
Toby, if possible please could you post the instructions on how to do this?
Thank you.
Stefan I assume you are asking about the Rearoute set up, not setting up tracks in Reaper ?
It was buried in my original DAW to Zoom via OBS post in the OM Tech Guide section.
This a much easy substitute for Reastream and is well explained in the linked video. And its a lot cleaner, as you donāt have to find spare audio devices.
Hope that helps.
That is correct Toby and thank you very much for this, Iāll give it a read and a play.
Iām still messing around try get get my recordings with my electric right, so Iām hoping this is going to help.
Hi @batwoman, I am exploring the best way to do this at the moment, did you end up up finding a suitable solution or is it still a work in progress?
What are you trying to do Craig - mix multiple tracks together with video, or just record everything all at once (video, guitar, vocals)?
There are many ways to do things.
@CD02 Craig I abandoned the idea. @jkahn has lots of tech know how, Iām sure heāll be able to help you.
Yes, it can be a massive rabbit hole
Hi JK, I was really looking to see what other newcomers to the recording side of things were doing. I read a lot of the articles relating to DAWs, AIs, OBS, & Zoom and some of them get pretty heavy Albeit very interesting.
Having recently moved up in some basic hardware I was exploring my options. Originally I wanted to record my Gtr into DAW (Iām using Reaper) then add a vocal track on top (so far so good as I can already do that easily) but then add it the video of playing I realised that it just wasnāt possible as I would never get the vocal and gtr to line up properly with the video and decided that I was making it all too hard after all its rally about playing and singing not spending hours pawing through software packages so I donāt want to get too distracted, although it is interesting.
So, today I installed OBS and had Reaper input to OBS via ReaRoute and have trialed a recording just live vocal and guitar during an OBS record session. itās ok, but Iām after what gives me the best sound/video (= performance) output.
I guess down the track I may even venture on to an OM night
Craig you have a couple options to mix and master the audio.
Firstly you can import the OBS video into Reaper and mix and master there and export the video.
Secondly you can record your Gtr and Vox tracks in Reaper and adjust the mix adding FX etc until you get the sound you want for each track. Once you have that set up, remove the audio files in Reaper leaving the tracks as they are and then record Audio and Video in OBS.
Thirdly, set up the gtr and vox tracks in Reaper and record them there AND record the audio and video in OBS simultaneously. You can then import the video back into Reaper and use the waveforms of the Gtr Vox and Video track to synchronise the sound. You can then play around with the gtr and vox tracks until you are happy (mute the video audio). And export the video, with mixed soundtrack from Reaper,
If you are synchronising and mixing/mastering in Reaper, the easiest way to align tracks is use a count in, click track, simple drum sample of 1 2 3 4 on its own track. The count in waveform on the OBS video can the be aligned with the waveform in Reaper. You can also switch of the Reaper gridlines and just slide the OBS track into position so it matches the original count in Reaper - then switch the gridlines back on.
Hope that helps, happy recording.
@CD02
Craig, I may be wrong in the following, if so hopefully others more knowledgeable will correct.
The audio, guitar direct if an electro-acoustic/electric and vocal via the mic, is routed into the PC using an audio interface. The computer will use appropriate drivers to handle the audio interface.
Given that the quality of the recorded audio in Reaper and OBS will be the same. At least I think so as Iād assume this is driven by the interface and drivers.
In Reaper you can do processing on the recorded audio after completing the recording. Can be as simple as balancing levels and panning, or more sophisticated using fx plugins, eg to add reverb and delay, EQ, compression, etc. Once satisfied then you can render a final audio file.
OBS is simply a recording (or streaming) application. You can source multiple inputs separately from the interface using the same drivers. But the final video saved will have the combined audio, no opportunity edit individual tracks after recording.
That said, you can setup levels to balance vocal and guitar before recording. And OBS enables the adding of fx on each track, which it calls filters. If you have Reaper setup then OBS will be able to access the plugins as filters. You can also work with panning in OBS. The downside is you need to set everything up before recording. Initially I found that quite time consuming but once you get the hang of it, it is pretty quick.
As Toby said, you can record audio in Reaper and OBS concurrently. Then you can use a video editor to import the video with audio from OBS and a process audio from Reaper. Many video editors have automatic syncing that will align the video with audio and the audio-only source. Actually while Reaper is a DAW, it has some basic video editing capability, and I have produced a video with me playing 4 parts in Reaper, syncing up all the video and audio.
So I see no reason why youād not get similar quality from OBS as Reaper, with the difference being the effort is upfront with OBS to set it up and may be after recording with Reaper. These days I make videos for AVOYP and stream to Zoom for OMs just using Reaper. I find the fewer apps in the mix the simpler.
Hope that makes sense, ask if not.
@CD02 Some good advice from @TheMadman_tobyjenner and @DavidP already.
Iād only add that this stuff is complicated. Iām pretty tech minded and it took a while to get my head around. Iād suggest starting simple - just audio into DAW and playing around recordings.
While Iāve experimented with a lot, what I mostly do for recordings these days is record video & audio in one take, but separately - video with camera, audio with DAW - then stick them together in a video editor (da vinci resolve). But having said that, I recorded my last video in OBSā¦ still experimenting.
Oh, also. For all its popularity I found Reaper hard to get started with. Ableton came with my Focusrite and was easier. Iāve recorded a few things in Reaper but Iām probably going back to Ableton.
Thanks Great feedback @TheMadman_tobyjenner @jkahn @DavidP .
Yes Toby, that does help, the more info I have the better . I never thought of using Reaper to put the video/audio together and had tried it with OBS and also Movie Maker.
Thanks David, and yes it makes sense.
This is interesting David and good to know, may look into this in the future
And this is what Iā looking for in general, an easy way to put together audio/video without too much juggling between multiple applications. I donāt mind the juggling for trying out things and getting better results but its really about the gtr and vox and sometimes you just want to get it done with minimum fuss on the software side.
Iām with you JK, I have a technical background so this sort of stuff keeps my mind ticking over but the software side of things can get really heavy and tricky.
Iāll have a look at some things like DaVinci out of interest it might be something for later on.
Interesting JK, I used Audacity for a while and found it very straight forward but I could see that there may be limitations. Now Iām trying Reaper and so far I like the layout and find the basics so far quite good, just things like recording mutiple racks, adding Fx, and the joining up with OBS. I must say that Kenny Gioia videos are brilliant when you need some tuition on how and why to apply Fx.
I looked a Ableton and have not yet given it a go but I did look at the layout and didnāt find it as easy looking (if that makes sense) as Reaper. I might give Ableton a spin just for s@*^s and giggles. (like I need more to work out )
Iāll be away for Oct but once i return one of our spare bedrooms is being converted into my dedicated music room so that I can have everything setup how I want it and not worry about putting it away everytime I use it. Also means I can practice anytime without disrupting what the missus is doing. Additionally, the acoustics are far better, smaller room, carpeted floor instead of tiled etc etc.
Again, thanks all, for the feedback.
Imho, focus on that, assuming it is a goal for you.
There is a rich vein of gold in this forum; people generously sharing their knowledge and experiences. However, no amount of āproduction layersā will improve the foundations ā¦ I admit to peering into what seems an abyss to me, but I will have to park it for now, be patient, and work on my own foundations.
KISS ā¦ and build from the bottom up ā¦
Hope to see you on an OM sometime soon ā¦