The Oliver Junior has a slightly narrower nut width of 43mm
Spec here.
2 mm does not sound like much, but IME tiny differences in guitar dimensions can mean big differences in playability.
More experienced players can change their technique to compensate, but this is lot more difficult for beginners.
Might be well worthwhile to try some guitars with wider necks at a local guitar shop, and see if that helps with the problem.
Found this one difficult for a 56 year old beginner, I know what I have to do but the fingers just keep touching the adjacent strings giving dud note. so frustrating and I think thatâs what always stops me progressing or enjoying learning.
@Gmeister donât give up Gerry the D chord can be tricky to begin with but persevere it will soon be one of the easier chords for you to play - honest! Practice forming the chord and strumming each of the strings in turn when you get it sounding clean lift the fingers off then reform and repeat, 5 min practice per day will soon make a huge difference.
Hi Gerry and welcome to the community firstly!
This is all very recognisable for everyone so please donât get too frustrated, we genuinely have all been there and fully understand!
My own suggestion is to really focus on Justinâs chord perfect exercise / principle. Slow everything right down, get your fingers placed, strum each string, and adjust as needed. Weâve all had chords that donât âworkâ right at first, but perseverance really does get results. Itâs all about developing muscle memory and D is quite a cramped up chord. How are you finding A and E?
If needed feel free to try and take a picture of your fretting for D and folks here can look and offer advice, could be wrist angle or something else but youâll never be short of help here. Above all do keep at it and trust that it will come.
Hi guys,
As a total beginner Iâm also struggling with the D chord for few days now. Most of the times the 1st (thinnest) E string doesnât sound well because my 3rd finger is too close to it. Itâs not totally muted, but when I strum it buzzes a bit because when fluctuating, it lightly touches my 3rd finger.
I noticed that I can slightly âpushâ the 2nd string up with my 3rd finger to move it slightly away from the 1st string, to give it more space to vibrate, and then it doesnât buzz. But I wonder if thatâs not âcheatingâ, and may be a bad practice to get used to⌠And if I should only press the strings directly towards the fret board without pushing them sidewaysâŚ
Thanks,
Koby
Hi Koby @kobygold, welcome to the community! When you get a chance, weâd love to learn a bit about what brought you to this fun placeâŚ
So - fellow beginner here, finishing up Grade 2. Your experience is typical, so donât let it frustrate you. Taking your last question firstâŚpushing (bending) the string as you describe is indeed a bad habit. It causes the note sounded to be out of tune. You definitely want to avoid pushing the strings sideways (at least until you learn to bend on purpose - which I think is an intermediate skill)!
If you can, it would be helpful to post a photograph of your hand forming the D chord. But here some thoughts based on my experience. First: be mindful of depressing the string with the very tips of your fingers, rather than the pads. Obviously this means your nails cannot be too long. Second: itâs possible youâre pressing the strings too hard, causing your fingertip to make too much contact with the fret board, and thereby getting in the way of other strings. (All beginners do this, I still do when Iâm working on a new or challenging grip!) To get a feel for the ârightâ amount of pressure, practice fretting a note with as little pressure as possible to make the note ring clearly. Try to keep this in mind when fretting entire chords, too. Finally, as your callouses harden, your fingers wonât âflattenâ out as much. This will happen naturally over time!
Iâm sure others will have additional suggestions. Please keep us posted on your progress!
Hi Judi,
thank you very much for the quick answer!
Iâve encountered the concept of âbendingâ on my harmonica playing, I didnât know it existed on
guitar as well Thank you very much, Iâll avoid using that. Good thing Iâve asked before getting used to that
I will try your other suggestions, and will post a photo if I continue to struggle!
Thanks a lot!
p.s.: I added a âa bit about myselfâ here:
Thanks again,
Koby
Hooray, one habit you wonât have to unlearn! One of my own biggest challenges in learning guitar is the vast distance between my mind understanding techniques and theory, and my body executing the understanding. I laugh at that every day.
Thanks Judi!
My biggest concern is getting used to bad habits which are much harder to get rid of later.
And indeed the distance between theory and practice can be big .
it is cheating a little, but still ok for small amounts. The thing to avoid is detuning the note you are pushing. Watch close-ups of Justinâs fingers in his lessons, he does a little scooting of strings, especially to mute one above a string he is fretting.
I had trouble with D as well, but now I wonder how I could ever have had trouble! Two things that will probably change for you:
Thanks sequences!
I will try your suggestions!
and will take a look again on Justinâs fingers in his lesson.
This is a very common beginner issue.
Many beginners press too hard, their soft finger tips (no callouses developed yet) flatten and the flesh splays out, interfering with adjacent strings.
Reduce the tightness of your grip, try to press only as much as needed to make the notes ring. Have patience while callouses build.
Also, try to ensure you bend the fingers and approach the strings from an upright, not flat, position.
I hope that helps. Cheers | Richard | JustinGuitar Approved Teacher, Official Guide & Moderator
Hello, there! Iâd like to ask if itâs ok to keep my pinky lifted up while Iâm doing the D chord. It kinda raises up together with my ring finger and I have this sense that Iâm doing it wrong. Could this make it harder to learn another chord in the future? Thanks in advance.
Hello Leticia.
Donât worry about your pinky at this stage. You donât want it to be pointing up in the air but if itâs curled along side your third finger then thatâs okay. Make sure itâs not touching and muting any strings.
Youâll be doing exercises that strengthen the pinky and develop finger independence as you progress through the course.
Welcome to the community. Lots to see when you have a look round.
I love how instead of just showing us how to play the chord and where the fingers go, Justin shows us common culprits of âdead notes,â string buzzing, etc. Itâs really helpful to the budding guitarist. I was surprised how easily I could play the D major chord after his helpful explanation.
Welcome to the community, Cormac @lieleaf! Yes, there is so much goodness in Justinâs lessons, all supported by the fine folks here. If you have a minute, maybe tell us a bit about yourself over here.
i would like to start my comment by thanking justin for all the great courses he have been putting out i just have a question should i after learning a new thing in the video (just like the D chord) wait and keep practicing or should i go to the next video after i learn it (and if the answer is that i should keep practicing, how much practice do i need to do or should i just keep practicing until i master it like 100%)
Welcome to the forum Ryan. You should learn the first 2 or 3 chords together for 3 reasons.
1 knowing atleast 3 chords you can start changing between then to practice chord changes.
2 if you only practice 1 chord youâll get groove in your fingers where the strings are and it will make it harder to get a clean sound.
3 knowing 2 or 3 chords and you can start learning songs.
Hi @RyanAleisa, you can watch a video lesson, âtestâ a bit what you learned in that, and then move on to the next lesson. At the end of the module, you will find a 30 min practice routine containing all elements you learned in the whole of the module. For module 1, itâs this one:
Use that after you have watched all the videos and until you meet the criteria set out for moving on to the next module. Have fun!