Need Your Love So Bad [SOLO] by Peter Green Lesson

Thanks Toby. Will be a good challenge. Similar to the Still Got the Blues intro/solo - technically not overly difficult, but its the nuances and finesse in the phrasing/bends/ vibrato that present the real challenge.

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@sclay I can’t take the credit Shane. David @DavidP posted a video of Gary Moore doing NYLSB and we hijacked the thread so I got him to move it to its own thread. It is a great solo to learn, don’t forget to steal all the licks and techniques you can.

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Oh…I’ll be stealin alright. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: As someone who’s always valued myself as a man of integrity; in the guitar world, I’m nought but a shameless rogue. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

And thanks @DavidP for bringing this to the forum.

Cheers Shane

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Ooh grade 6 and I think I can do that… worth a go

Just watched the lesson through and love the tip of using the thumb to mute the unneeded strings on a bend.

Looking forward to giving it a go later lots of nice little subtle bits

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@stitch actually you can take all the credit. Based on your suggestion to learn a solo as a means to developing technique, feel, timing and learning licks in a musical context I’d had a look at a few of Justin’s lessons for something suitable.

I eventually settled on NYLSB and in process was watching first original Fleetwood Mac and then the Gary Moore cover, which I chose to share in WAYCLT.

@sclay guess that’s all relative, Shane. The bend and dip, the tone-and-a-half followed by the clean note a semi lower without any bend … these are technically challenging for me.

@RobDickinson Hope you had fun, Rob, and look forward to hearing you play it eventually.

Last night I started in on the first couple of licks. Lots of fun, lots to learn. Don’t expect a full play through recording this weekend :laughing:

@sairfingers Come on Gordon, we’ve danced with Layla, so you should join us at this Greenie party.

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Probably not on the electric tonight, and I’ve about a decades worth of finger style blues to work through haha, give it a go tomorrow.

Lot of it is well in my ballpark but not all for sure, a good pieces to practice

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Mmm….now that’s a thought. :thinking:

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@DavidP
Only my opinion David but it is difficult enough to keep up with the existing number of options as to where to post this type of thing. Things disappear down the list so quickly now.
Even this reply of mine is padding out the Topic and making it more difficult to follow.

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@sairfingers you are right, there are q uite a number of posts made daily, so something can easily get lost. Keep track and not missing replies does depend on how one sets up notifications.

I think it may be best for an individual learning the solo and posting for feedback to create a topic in AVOYP. It is probably where it is least likely to get lost. That said, once the person returns to post a later rendition, many may miss that if they don’t scan the replies.

Now I am rambling away in reply to you, without a helpful answer.

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I’ve run into an unexpected problem working on this solo (amidst all the expected ones).

When I try to bend the E up to F#, the note just dies when I go beyond a semi-tone. I can play a tone bend on the e string on the frets either side of the 12th, sounds fine. Just the bend at the 12th fret that is misbehaving.

I assume this is some kind of weird setup thing but perplexed given all is good on the other frets.

Any ideas?

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Bump the gain up ? Not experienced that David with either 9s 9.5s or 10s.
Sorry. :cry:

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That’s why I always recommend playing with more fx :slight_smile: more gain, more compression and sustain should do the trick. Alternatively crank up the amp and play your guitar to it to generate feedback, but this is an option not neighbour friendly :grinning:

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@TheMadman_tobyjenner @adi_mrok

Thanks for sharing some thoughts, guys. It is weird since it only happens on that one string at just that fret. I may try tuning down a semi-tone and playing it one fret up to avoid the 12th fret tone bend on the e string.

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In his lesson Justin says this is a “standard kind of blues chord sequence”. IMHO it’s a bit more complicated than that…In Grade 6 if you want to play over the changes, you need to know the chords. Unfortunately I don’t subscribe to the tabs on JG so can’t check them out for accuracy. If anyone has the tab, I’m wondering whether Justin tabbed the diminished chord.

The progression is almost identical to the John Mayall “Someday after a while” that Peter Green did earlier in his career. Here I think the minors are replace by 7ths.

Hello Rory,

I dont have the Justin TABS anymore, but somewhat familiar with this tune. From memory, I think yes, he included the diminished on the IV chord. And he’d have to really as the diminished chord in this progression is central.
As far as being a standard progression, it is really I just a 145 at its core, but its an 8 bar blues, rather than a 12; and with the added sophistication of the diminished on the IV chord, and the vi -ii -V7- I when going to the V back to the I.

Cheers, Shane

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Thanks Shane. Just trying to get my terminology right as I analyse this and that he hadn’t called it something like a min7b5…

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I do subscribe to the tabs. Obviously it’s not right for me to say much, but I hope no one will object if I say he moves from the IV to the sharp IV dim 7 chord.

@Richard_close2u please delete if inappropriate.

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Thanks I guessed right. Cheers Peter

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@rorystrat check out Justin’s lesson on Worried Life Blues. It’s an 8 bar and he does a really goog job explaining the turnaround using the diminished chord to add color to the 145 progression.

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