This video may give some further insight
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Thanks James.
I was not fully understanding the difference between copyright strike and copyright claim. I have a feeling I may have responded to queries in the past assuming people were using the terms synonymously.
That was partly abetted by thinking that āblockingā was an official (for lack of a better word) term.
So now I understand that when Rick says that GnR block he more precisely means that they issue copyright strikes if their original music (audio or video) is included in a YTers video, which could either be because Rick includes an original soundbyte or because he actually plays it.
Now the āfair useā video would be interesting. I had a quick look on the channel and donāt see it. One would imagine that using original clips and playing for purposes of teaching would perhaps be āfair useā? And if not feeling generous and willing to allow the YTer the revenue from a teaching video, a copyright claim to either take 100% or to share the revenue would be reasonable, rather than a copyright strike.
I shall stop there before I dive into my own philosophies on such matters related to econonmics etc. That might likely sail close to the Community Etiquette wind.
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And now it is clear, I am pleased to say I have received 30 copyright claims 
. That is about 25% of all I have uploaded, though the denominator does included my noodles and original songs.
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YouTube do have a video on fair use
It is interesting when you look at the details of the copyright claims. I have done two Travis covers and one them has the composition down as The Humpty Dumpy Love Song (Remastered 2021) by Travis with multiple content owners and the other one it has the composition down as Writing to Reach You by James Brown with single content owner (Sony Music Publishing). Iām looking forward now to listening to this James Brown version. The other thing that got me thinking was that both the Travis covers that I done mainly get viewed now from content suggestions from the official travis channel. It made me think how much traffic does the likes of Justin who has over a million subscribers drive to the artists official channels.
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@Socio Thanks James. Seems like there are lots of videos on āfair useā. And it looks like a quagmire. I would have thought that teaching videos constituted āfair useā. But it seems the process to make that claim could be long, expensive, and far from cut & dried. So in our case, best Justin and Musopia just remove the material and move on.
One thing I do disagree with is Rick Beato uses the band The Eagles is his video, when in reality itās just Don Henley. Any song Henley has written or co-written he has a 0 tolerance policy and doesnāt just tell YouTube to take it down but gives a copyright strike to that channel. This is what Beato means by Blocking.
Other copyright owner either take the revenue or a portion of it and leave the video up or ask YouTube to take it down but donāt give you a copyright strike just a claim.
I remember around 2010 Justin had the same problem with Guns and Roses over his hand written tabs and had to take all his tabs down and remove all the G&R video lessons. This led to the songbooks which evolved into the Tab section on the website and the development of the app. All of these pay royalties to the copyright holders.
He also had a problem with Bob Dylan even though he was paying royalties to Dylan he got a copyright strike for the video lessons.
This led to Justin removing all Dylan songs from all the next publication of the song books and removing all the video lessons.
Itās not easy being Justin everyone wants something from him. We want free lessons and the copyright holders want money. Itās amazing that he has managed to make a living off of donations and the few paid lesson, app and tabs.
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Thanks for the clarifications of this arcane topic., everyone!
I also hear Rick Beato talk about āde-monitizationā a lot. I believe this means that the copyright holder gets any ad revenue from the video, not the content creator.
Is that correct?
And is that the same as a ācopyright claimā in YT parlance, or does YT have another term?
Yes this is correct. But to receive revenue from youtube you need a lot of followers like Justin or Rick. This is what make what Henley is doing so ludicrous, he is paying people to lose him money and then bitches about it.
In one of Rick Beatoās videos where he testified to congress at the same time Henley was complaining Rick brought up the fact that the movie industry does revenue sharing with him when he does videos on movie tracks. That would be the best for everyone. Both parties get paid but Henley doesnāt see it that way.
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Exactly. Creators like Justin and Rick Beato add tremendous value in their videosā¦why should only the copyright holder get paid? Makes much more sense to share the pie.
But greedy guts, dog in the manger Don Henley wantās all the pieā¦even the microscopic crumbs.
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@stitch Thanks Rick, that is a clear explanation of the differences between copyright claim, block, and strike.
Iāve been a little ālazyā as a participant in this conversation, doing no more than watch the videos others have shared. Iāll beg indulgence, it being the work-week to date. This morning I thought Iād follow up after watching Rick Beatoās video.
Iād love to find some balanced journalism (for lack of a better word) but this is a polarising topic and getting away from just YTers videos and finding an appropriate source looks like being a task requiring more time than I want to invest.
So hereās what I can share that you may find interesting:
Transcript of Rickās testimony
Transcript of Donās testimony
The most reasonable YTer commentary I found I time-stamped the start to skip some light-hearted preamble and the usual request to subscribe and like
I think this is a challenging topic which needs to address fair use and piracy. Inevitably not black and white. I also think it is a sub-plot within the bigger story that is the modern social media era and evolution of the music business.
With my Moderator hat on: please be mindful of our Community Etiquette prescriptions if/as the conversation continues. I think it is a relevant Topic considering itās impact on JustinGuitar and our interest in music as learners. But I donāt want to have to spend time moderating comments should they cross the line, for example letās not make comments on the character of Don Henley, irrespective of how you feel and how justified you may feel you are.
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Yeah, Iāve been guilty of that, so message received. Certainly donāt want to cause problems for Justin and the rest of the team.
I think the real issue here is that these Blockers are creating unnecessary difficulties for beginning guitar players (and content creators), by forcing content creators to be (possibly) over cautious, and take down high quality instructional content.
Rather than name calling, Iāve been trying to think of ways to be more positive and constructive, and actually try to get the Blockers to lighten up.
But Iām kind of coming up blank with thatā¦anyone have any ideas?
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