Stuck 3&4 lesson...em7 typo or option?

In the Stuck 3-4 video em7 is demonstrated with four fingers. In the accompanying practice module Wonderwall karaoke (chord and strum tab) em7 is shown as three fingers with high E open. Typo or interchangeable? Three finger version is way easier to lay down.

Here’s my take: both versions are Em7, since the high e string is sounding either a G note (fretted at 3rd fret) or an E note (open). Both of these notes are in the Em7 chord.

BTW, if you are playing this chord in a stuck 3&4 context (which I believe is appropriate for Wonderwall), then I think you should keep the pinky down on the e string. This shouldn’t be hard, since you have fingers 3&4 down all the time, right?

I just glanced at it again and at least most of the Em7s come after As, so repositioning all the fingers! Unless we are supposed to be playing A7sus4s but the karaoke doesn’t indicate that. I might as well practice the stuck version Em7 as it’s harder, but nice to know about the option.

@wdperkins Maybe this will help you understand why both are Em7 chords
The notes in Em7 are E G B D notice in all 4 of the chord posted have these notes so they are all open position Em7 chords. Even the last one. It’s a first inversion Em7. You could play the 3rd chord using just the D G B e strings and it would still be an Em7. If you play these 4 notes together anywhere on the neck they are still Em7

Thank you. I’ve just gotten to the point where I understand your diagrams and how those notes come to be where they are on the fret board. I don’t know why they make up Em7 yet, but that is near future learning hopefully.

Have you gotten to the Major scale yet? If not I want bog you down with a bunch of theory, there’s lots of time to learn that. So ignore the rest of this post. :see_no_evil:

If you do know a little theory then the E is the Root note, the G is the minor 3rd, the B is the 5th and the D is the Flat7 all these note come from the E major Scale E, F#, G#, A, B, C#, D#, E
The 3rd is G# but to make the chord minor you need to flatten to G same goes for the D# it gets move one semi tone to D

This is also how the minor scale came to be E, F♯, G, A, B, C, D, E. You move the G# C# D# down one semi tone to make them the minor 3rd, minor 6th and minor 7

We were introduced to C major scale in this (8th I think) lesson. I’ve also picked up a couple others through Google. Don’t know theory behind them yet, but I enjoy practicing them more than my chord changes.

Hi @wdperkins and welcome to the forum.
For Wonderwall, many other Oasis songs, and lots of 80s rock ballads etc you want to check this lesson on the stuck 3&4 chords.

By karaoke version I presume you mean that the app shows a slightly different fingering?
Check the Wonderwall lesson too.

Thank you Richard. I am now working through play along songs in the practice module for the stuck 3&4 chord lesson, The specified Wonderwall chords are Em7, Dsus4, C, G, A, D. Will use all stuck versions for the practice in this module.

PS A&sus4 and Dsus4 4 sound very alike to me.

Make sure you are playing just 4 strings for the D chord and 5 for the A chord.
That ringing bass note should sound quite different.
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