Where to connect Compressor pedal

No, it’s not your pickups. What you are describing is what compressors do: they even out the difference between quiet sounds and loud sounds.

If you have noise, that’s normally a quiet sound. Put a compressor in and, depending on the settings, you will make that noise become a loud sound.

The fact that you have unwanted noise means the pedal is doing exactly what it should. The problem is you are feeding it with noise

If you are already using humbucker/noiseless pickups then you are doing pretty much all you can there. Your next option is using a noise suppressor.

And, bear in mind, if your playing isn’t clean, the compressor will also increase the sound of any finger noise or other strings ringing out. Muting and clean technique become vital to learn.

Well, that, unfortunately, is often the way. As @JustinGuitar suggests, a compressor pedal isn’t something I would normally recommend as an effect as they can be difficult to work with, especially when dealing with tones which aren’t clean.

Given you have a Katana amplifier which has a load of built-in effects, including multiple compressors, and a noise suppressor, my suggestion would be to experiment with those first. You will need to use Boss Tone Studio for this:

Cheers,

Keith

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Thanks @GrytPipe
Everything helps.

I too play very close to the amp, but last night, during my messing about, I got so fed up with trying to get things set that I took my guitar to the end of the cable and sat down about 3metres away.
Everything sounded quite different. Better.
Now I’m thinking of rearranging my whole set-up so I can be further away from the amp and then start experimenting with settings again.

Thanks Keith @Majik

I’ve put things on hold until I’ve rearranged the furniture, then I’ll start again.

I don’t have a computer, just my old phone, so I’m staying away from Tone Studio.
I believe it will run on a phone but I have quite enough garbage on it already.

The distance between you and your amp has an impact on the sound you hear.
I’d suggest that you start with the gain and volume on your amp, turned to zero.
The same for your compressor. Every knob, set to zero.
Guitar volume around 5 or so.
Then turn up the volume of your amp to 2-3.
Now you can start fiddling with the knobs on your compressor. Get the manual too, that always helps, as different companies, have different names for the same functions. (which can really make things very confusing).
Play around with the compressor untill you get a really good feeling what knob’s responisible for what.
Next up: the volume/gain of the amp. First mix in more or less volume. See how that behaves in combination with your compressor.
Then you can start playing around with gain. Same recipe.
After that, you can start playing around with the volumeknob of your guitar.

By this time, you should have a good understanding of how a compressor behaves.

This: JHS Compressor 101 was very helpfull to me.

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Great advice from @GrytPipe

I would also spend a little time getting to know your basic level controls on the amp too, if you haven’t. By “basic level controls” I mean the “gain”, “volume”, and “master” controls (as well as the power control settings).

Amps like the Katana are extremely flexible, but that also means there’s a lot of knobs to play with, and it’s easy to end up tweaking lots of stuff and not really understanding what’s happening. And,even when it comes to something as simple as “how loud is this thing” there’s a lot of controls and options to balance.

I would start by setting the Katana to a single channel such as “Crunch”, turn off all effects, set the EQ to 12’O’Clock and then play with the gain, volume and master controls to get an understanding of what they do.

Here’s a rough explanation:

Pretty much all audio amps actually have two amp circuits in them: a pre-amp and a power amp. The power-amp provides the electrical power to drive the mechanical speaker, and is primarily responsible for making the overall tone louder or quieter.

The pre-amp is responsible for making the tiny electrical input signal higher, high enough for the power-amp to deal with.

In a guitar amp, the pre-amp is also where most of the distinctive amp tone comes from. It’s here that overdrive is used to shape the sound by over-driving the pre-amp circuits, and guitar pre-amps are designed so that the input level can be turned up in order to get over-drive.

The control which does this is the “gain” control on the Katana. This is the only one of the basic level knobs on the Katana which should cause the tone to change substantially. All of the other level knobs are ways to make the overall sound louder or quieter.

Note you also have the (poorly named IMO) “volume” pot on your guitar which impacts the level going into the pre-amp, and is kind of like an additional “gain” control that you can use as well as, or instead of, the gain control on the amp.

The primary motivation of the “gain” control is to impact how hard the pre-amp is driven, in order to create overdriven tones. Yes, it will change the absolute volume level as well, because that’s how “gain” works. But that is not its primary function, and it’s a mistake to use the gain control like this. The gain control should really be used only for tone shaping.

As I said, everything else happens after the pre-amp, and is only concerned with the volume coming from the speaker, and not changing the tone.

So use the “gain” knob to get the tone you want, and use the other controls to get the volume you want.

Ideally you want to be able to set the master volume control and power control to a level you like, and then use the pre-amp “volume” control to adjust the level of individual patches so that they are roughly the same. You don’t want to be messing with the master volume control every time you change to a different setting.

So in everyday use, you should normally only be messing with the gain control for tone shaping, and the volume control to offset the volume changes caused by changes to the gain control.

Of course, as soon as you stick pedals in front of the amp, this complicates things further, as you then, potentially, have the ability to boost or cut the signal on each pedal.

My advice here for “non-gain” pedals, like compressors, delays, etc.: get what you want from the amp with the pedals turned off/bypassed and treat that as your baseline tone.

Then you can mess around with the pedal controls. If doing something on the pedal then makes the amp too loud, then turn down the level on the pedal. If you start messing with the amp controls, then it’s like trying to spin plates.

With gain pedals (overdrives, boosts, and distortions) it’s more complex but some of this advice can also be used there too.

Cheers,

Keith

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@GrytPipe @Majik

Thanks for the detailed write-ups.
A great reference for me and no doubt others too who are getting into tone shaping.

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You’re welcome.

A word of warning though… Once you go into the rabbit hole of sound… there’s no telling where you might end up… :rofl:

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