"Always Remember" - an original song by Simon Calverley (aka simon_plays_bass)

https://soundcloud.com/simon_plays_bass/always-remember

or maybe this one as it is set to private: https://on.soundcloud.com/XqpoBxt3dKST569QA

Hi everyone,

Hopefully you can access this privately published song on SoundCloud.

After seeking advice over in the “Gear & Tools Talk / Hardware, Software and Recording section (thread: Hosting originals - what do you use)”, I decided to publish this song privately on SoundCloud. I decided against publishing with a video at this stage as I’m keen on feedback on the song rather than on a (very) incomplete video.

So please let me have your feedback. Saying “great song Simon” is obviously welcomed :grinning_face:, but I’m also keen to receive constructive criticism.

If anyone would like to suggest what genre it is, please do.

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I’m also keen for some chat on the songwriting methodology I used. Hopefully I can learn from you, and maybe you’ll get some creative thoughts from me.

I watched Justin’s lesson, beginner grade 2, module 11 on song writing (Dice method, although I didn’t use dice). It inspired me to have a go at writing again after a break of maybe 10 years or so (I don’t think many, if any of them from 10 years ago are particularly good).

I had a subject in mind but no lyrics. My wife gave me 3 of the lines in normal conversation (i.e. she wasn’t thinking up lyrics, we were just chatting!). I built the rest of the song from there:

  • I hope she “always remembers” (the chorus hook) that " she fought so hard for her" (the bridge ending, I modified “her” to “you”). And “I’m proud of her” which I modified to "we’re so proud of her (also in the bridge).

I wanted to write a ii, V, 1. It is one of the chord progressions in one of the module 10 lessons. Also I’m a bit of a Jazz fan and ii, V, 1 is a common jazz progression.

I wrote the 1st verse about the “now”. I introduced some people (“we’ve seen you”), a story outline (“pictures”, “a tough lane draw”) and an emotion (“I can’t wait”).

I started with a ii, V, 1, IV, but the IV didn’t quite sound right. I replaced it with a vi. I think it sounds better. Also it gives equal weighting to major and minor chords in the verse. So to the listener it could go either way - happy song or sad. The last line starts to hint it is a major key (ii, V, 1). The IV, V, 1, vi in the chorus puts it in majority major “confirming” it is a happy song.

Chorus: I effectively use the same lyric twice, but but express it 2 different ways. “Always remember” and “never forget”. Provides emphasis and meant I wasn’t having to think up 2 lyrics - I used (almost) the same one twice.

Verse 2. This is dreaming, hoping, anticipating what it will be like when the other person arrives (note: you as the listener don’t know who the person arriving is). The listener can do all those things too, and apply their own feelings in anticipation of someone arriving, or to a time when they looked forward to welcoming someone.

The bridge goes minor and introduces a new chord (the iii) with a return to major at the end which leads into the upbeat chorus. Also it goes quieter. This is intended to take the listener back into “listen to the story mode”. Interestingly I used 2 of the lyrics I was given in the bridge. Maybe the bridge (which often has a different feel to the rest of the song) is more difficult to find inspiration for both words and music.

Where does the bridge go? Often after a chorus. But as the song finishes with a double chorus, and only has 2 verses, the song feels chorus heavy. So I added an instrumental after the second chorus over the verse chords, then go to the bridge. This gives a better balance between the verse tune and the chorus tune.

I decided to finish the song with a double chorus (a common technique I think). I use the vi chord at the end of the 2nd time through the chorus to help repeat the final line, and to signal the end of the song is coming. The song resolves on the the final line with a bit of a “rit.”

I’ve deliberately avoided writing who the people involved in the song are, so that the listener can put their own emotions in there, without being fully constrained by the characters in the song.

(It doesn’t look like I can attach a file. If there is a way please let me know and I’ll add the chord chart, with lyrics).

A couple of further writing notes:

I did the chords and melody on the piano (the instrument I’ve played for the longest).

I then checked it worked with guitar, or at least that I could make it work with my limited guitar skills. I could, so figured it would be ok for most people who can play guitar. I think I found that guitar gave me a bit more vocal freedom. I think I made some slight modifications to the melody due this increased vocal freedom.

Hey Simon,

When I click the link it tells me that it’s been deleted or made private, so I’m unable to listen. I’ve never published to SoundCloud before, so I’m not sure how that can be fixed :thinking:

I would love to hear it and get into the songwriting weeds with you though! I’m happy to provide whatever feedback I can when I am able to listen :+1:

Now onto production.

Demo:

Summary

I recorded a demo of the song. This was me playing the piano and singing. I used a single condenser mic to pick up both piano and voice. Then into Logic Pro on my iPad via my Presonus 24C Audio interface. Interestingly I wanted to do the chorus at about 135bpm and verses at about 130bpm. I compromised at (as I recall 133bpm). I played to a metronome / click in Logic Pro - the sound engineers I know think this is a “must do” for studio recordings.

Drums:

Summary

I then exported the track and sent it to my son (Jake) to add drums. I asked him to do a “straight” and a “funk” version. The 2 of us decided to use the straight version. The drums you hear on the final version are from this original take by Jake (ooh a bit of poetry too :grinning_face:)

Side note: although we both use Apple programs (Logic and Garageband) and gear (iPad and Mac) we weren’t able to collaborate directly on the project, which seems a bit odd. Hence each of us had to export and share the files for import into our respective DAWs.

Bass

Summary

I then worked out a bass line and recorded it. I figured that once I had the drums and bass (so the rhythm and the groove) it would make the guitar and redo of the piano part easier.

I asked Jake to listen to the project with the bass line. He thought the bass line was good and helped to bring the song along.

The bass is recorded via an Origin Effects Bassrig Super Vintage pedal (the Ampeg SVT emulatot) using the in-built 8 x 10 cabinet. I have some compression on prior to the pedal.

Guitar

Summary

I did the guitar part assuming that the guitar player in my band would probably do the guitar part, or maybe a lead part over my rhythm guitar. He didn’t have any suitable recording gear though (other than a US Fender Strat :grinning_face:). Hence the guitar part I originally recorded is the one you are hearing.

I played my PRS 24-08 SE. I’m guessing I had the neck pick up on humbicker and the bridge on single coil, but I od’nt really remember. I set the guitar up to have a bit of overdrive via a JHS 3 series distortion pedal with the gain set relatively low, so that it’s more like an overdrive. I may have put a Bad Monkey (a Tube Screamer type pedal), again with low gain into the distortion but don’t recall. I had a slapback delay to thicken the sound a bit then into a reverb, probably on a plate setting. I then went into Logic via the Origin Effects Super Vintage with the cab sim on. The Super Vintage is on the point of break up if I was playing clean into it. I think the bass pedal works pretty well for guitar - an Ampeg SVT was good enough for Keith Richards so it’s good enough for me (for now).

Side note: I needed fewer takes on guitar than I did on either bass or piano, both of which I play better than guitar. Probably something to be said for keeping things simple.

Vocals

Summary

Vicky, the singer in our band (“In Progress”), performed the vocals. We did this in my home studio. I used an SM58 vocal mic. I was thinking for a while that I should have used a condenser mic - but I think it’s turned out pretty well with the SM58.

Vicky’s vocal level was more variable than I would have liked during the recording. I tried using a compressor at the time of recording, but I wasn’t competent enough to do it at the time we recorded, so I hoped I could fix it post recording.

Prior to the recording the only vocals were the demo I did. Luckily we could just about get the level right that Vicky could hear the piano (she wanted it) but wasn’t distracted by my vocal (which was on the same track as the piano) - I think this was the bit of luck the production process needed.

Piano

Summary

I used a condenser mic. The placement was dictated by where I could pick up enough signal. I could have done it on my Roland keyboard, but wanted the acoustic piano so I had a bit more control over the dynamics. I think the noise at the start and end of the recording is probably due to having the Audio Interface input gain almost at max to get enough piano signal (I haven’t actually checked). I may make different piano recording decisions if there is a next time.

At this stage all the parts were done. I was able to mute the demo track at this point.

Mixing

Summary

I mixed to what I thought sounded good, or at least as good as I could get it. The main problems were the low F on the bass of the 1st note of the chorus (too loud and a bit overwhelming); and the dynamic range of the vocal. I used compression on the bass and vocal tracks to control this. I then went through the drum, guitar and piano tracks and put compression on each of these. The bass had the most post compression on it - it was also the only one that had compression on the way in.

I tried reverb on Vicky’s vocal and the overall recording, but neither made it sound better (to my ear)

I then exported the mix for Vicky and Jake to listen to. They were both happy with it.

At this point I was happy with the recording and thought it was finished. However…

Mastering

Summary

Something @LievenDV said on the thread I mention in the OP sent me down a bit of a music distribution rabbit hole. One of them (Ditto) had an article on mastering. It convinced me to give their Artificial Intelligence based mastering tool a go. You upload the file, it does the mastering, you listen to it; you then have the choice to pay for $5 to download it or do nothing. I thought it improved the recording.

And the result is the recording I have posted to SoundCloud.

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Instruments / Musicians / Engineering / Kit - the last one I hope

Summary

Words and Music composition - me
Vocals - Vicky
Drums - Jake
Bass - Me
Guitar - Me
Piano - Me

Mixing - Me
Mastering - Ditto’s AI

All the important bits of kit I used are mentioned in the production post.

That’s it. I know there is a lot of text, but hopefully bits of it are interesting to some people and it promotes a bit of thought / discussion / creativity. (Edit: now that I’ve found the “Hide details” function, maybe it is easier to navigate).

@Jenndye429 does the second link I have added to the OP work?

(SoundCloud is new to me too :grinning_face:)

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Yes, that one worked, thank you!

I’ll have a listen and come back with my full thoughts :grin:

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Simon

The song has a pleasant melody. The balance isn’t quite right: the vocal is barely audible for most of the song; the drums (drum machine?) in the bridge section sound wrong for the song’s generally gentle style. The song is probably too long: the last minute goes nowhere musically or lyrically.

As a ‘first draft’ the song shows potential and I’d listen again to the next edition.

Brian

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Ok, I’m back with some thoughts :grin:

First of all- it was really enjoyable! As I am typing this, I can still hear the chorus running through my head. Vicky’s got a really pretty voice and she was a good fit for the song’s style.

I can relate, this happens to me a lot :laughing: Someone will say something in normal conversation and a song idea or lyric will just come to me. It doesn’t even have to be something someone said. One time, I had an idea for a song just by standing in an elevator :laughing:

I’m with you on this :+1: As any of my band mates can attest- I love writing lyrics that can be left open to interpretation. Since my husband Dan frequently hears demos of my songs right after the lyrics are done, it’s always interesting to hear his take on them. Sometimes his interpretation is different than my original intention- but that is part of what’s cool for me about the whole process. A lot of my influences in the songwriting space definitely write that way too. A lot more about evoking a feeling than telling you how you should feel.

Go with what you like and sounds good to you! While I use theory as a general guide, most of the time I use Justin’s “if it sounds good it is good” as my guiding principle. If something sounds good, it goes in the song, regardless of whether it technically “fits” :wink: There are definitely times where I want to try and achieve something very specific, but most of the time, I’m just using my ears to start. That said- all songwriters work a bit differently. There isn’t one right or wrong way to do it IMO.

Not sure what genre I’d call your song. Maybe soft rock? Maybe someone else will have a better idea :laughing:

I’d say, overall I think the pieces of your song fit together well.

As far as the mix, I would have liked the vocal level to be brought up a bit more, but that’s just my personal preference. I tend to like it when the vocals sit nicely on top of everything. Dan and I often debate about the vocal levels in our mixes as he likes them a little lower than I do.

I liked your bass line and thought it sat really nicely in the mix :+1:

I agree with Brian’s comment that the heavy drums in the bridge sound a bit too intense for the overall tone of the song.

I did feel that the song was just a touch chorus heavy. It’s a great chorus and it’s nicely catchy, but I’m not sure the double chorus at the end was needed. Again, that’s just my personal preference. Many songwriters think that the chorus is the most important part, so do what you like :+1:t2:

The only thing I felt that was missing from the song was some kind of solo (guitar or piano) in the instrumental section. I think that would have really added some nice additional dynamics there.

Overall, great job! I’d love to see the lyrics if you are able to post them. A lot of people do it this way

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lyrics

Put the words here

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Well done on producing an original song, so much goes into composing, arranging, recording, mixing, Simon. And then to share with the Community, inviting the feedback as you have.

I’m certainly no expert in any aspect, and much of what can be shared is more personal taste and subjective than totally objective. But will share a few thoughts nevertheless.

WRT genre for me it is a pop song. It has a catchy vibe, easy-on-the-ear sound.

As such maybe a little shorter would be appropriate. I’d cut the end to just a single chorus and the repeated outro refrain.

I would try to add a solo to the instrumental or perhaps drop it and stay with I-V-C-V-C-B-C-O

Not sure about the switch to the toms in the bridge. I like the change but maybe too different and not dancing well with the vocal and other instruments.

From a mix perspective, I think lift the vocal, especially in the verses. Your singer has a lovely voice and is a bit buried.

Perhaps also try working on the panning. It all sounds centre to me. I typically place drums, bass, vocals centre and then try and create some width by panning other instruments right or left.

All that said, it was an enjoyable listen. Bravo.

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@Jenndye429 and anyone else who’s interested

Lyrics and chords. (I tried to add the chords in position but the editor wasn’t co-operating).

Summary

Always Remember

Structure:
Intro, Verse 1, Chorus, V2, Ch , Instrumental (Verse chords), Bridge, Double Chorus, Outro

Key C

Intro:
Dm, G, C, Am
Dm , G, C

Verse 1 (chords: largely ii, V, I, vi. Last phrase ii, V, I).

We’ve seen you in pictures
Almost from the start
It wasn’t an easy place
A tough lane draw, that’s true
You put us through the mill sometimes
But that’s not down to you
Soon we will meet
And I can’t wait

Chorus (Chords: IV, V, I, vi; IV, V, I ; %)

Always Remember, Never Forget
That you have always been loved
Always Remember, Never Forget
That you will always be loved

Verse 2

When you arrive
How will it be
Tears and smiles, fun and games
Laughs inside and good times out
All these things that we will do
When you’ve come to stay
Soon we will meet
And I can’t wait --------------------> Chorus

Instrumental (Verse Chords)

Bridge (Chords: vi, iii ; % ; vi, ii, IV, V)

It would be tough
That she always knew
We’re so proud of her
She fought so hard for you

Chorus x 2

Last line, Last time - Am at end of 1st 2 lines, CGC to finish

That you will always be loved
You will always be loved
Yes you will always be loved

© Simon Calverley, 2025, Words and Music
This work is registered with the UK Copyright Service: Registration No: 284759174

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That’s a really nice song Simon. Others above have given you plenty of good feedback and more than I can offer. Very enjoyable all round and lovely vocals by your wife.

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Great song, Simon! :slight_smile:

Now I will better read through all of your texts and the feedback others have given so I won’t repeat things others have said already or you have explained.

Just this: on first impression I really like the song and the mood and sound of everything!
I am generally a bit bad at understanding all the lyrics in songs, and here too. Your mixing should put the lovely vocal a bit more upfront. Possibly slightly louder (I’m not sure), but mainly through balancing the EQs of vocal and other instruments. Like having sections in the frequency spectrum where every of the instruments shine and others step back. (You can find quite a few of tutorials on the web and these things give quickly an improvement in perceiving all of the instruments/vocal) But I’m still learning this stuff myself, so I can only give limited advice.

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Ah, that Aerosmith song was actually yours! :slight_smile:

Listened again with headphones.
Now I could understand the singer better.
But well… like David said above - you left everything in the center, did you?

That also helps separating the instruments and set up “the stage”.
Very similar to David, I place vocals center, or almost, and bass and drums most often ever so slightly left or right. Guitars or piano can go a bit more stereo. That together with a bit more EQ balancing would do wonders I think, no need to pay a mastering service.
I am learning myself, but if you’re interested, you can also upload the tracks somewhere and send me the link in a pm, so I would set it up like I usually do and you’d see what I mean.

Maybe you explained and I missed the bit, but I was irritated by the slowing down at “When you arrive…” I think you mentioned having used a click track. so I wondered if that was intentional?

While I wouldn’t be as strict, I can relate to Brian’s comment. There’s few ups and downs in the song… like volume, tension, or a bit more surprising chords, rhythm changes. I mean, not all at once, but some more quiet and louder places throughout the song, or an instrument being quiet for a moment , then coming back… something like that.
Or maybe like Jennifer mentions, a solo?

But then, once the mix would be a bit more “clear” or balanced and the instruments more put into the stereo field, a bit of the above would already be solved, I think.

Now, after my blabla, let me finish by saying that it’s great how you wrote the song and put all of the instruments together! I really like it! :slight_smile:

Oh, and you did a great job of documenting everything!
I really like it to understand the story of the song and how everything was done!

Thank you for sharing this! :slight_smile:

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Super song Simon! Very impressed with your songwriting skills, thank you for your detailed breakdown of your thinking. It’s something I’d like to have a go at sometime, but I need to have a look at Justin’s lessons first because I’ve no clue how to begin!

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We could do some group songwriting. A few less and a few more experienced persons and giving each other tips and feedback while possibly working at the same… subject, or keywords, or style or even just starting at the same time (and maybe a deadline if wanted) - could be fun, I think.
Tried to learn things lately to really be of help for others in that regard, but to be honest, I don’t really feel ready to securely guide others through the process yet. :slight_smile:

If you’re interested in learning more than Justin teaches (it’s nice, but very brief), I like Keppie and Benny’s youtube videos a lot. Look for “howtowritesongs”.

Regarding starting… https://youtu.be/wSrB3XoAOqU?feature=shared

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Thanks! I’m happy to give it a try if you pull some people together for a collab.