we re all built differently
there are different types of memory and weâre not all using the same memory
some people use the photographic memory , others , the " ear " memory , others will be smells and the re must be a memory linked to the touch too etc etc
what works for some people might not work for others because we do not use the same memory !
someone with an " ear " memory or photographic memory shouldn t try to use the " color " technic because their brain won t understand it
This thread has really caught my attention. So most people can actually see objects or events in their minds, even with their eyes closed or open?! I had no clue that was possible. Iâve never heard of it. I evidently have Aphantasia then, since I donât see things like that.
Only, as I have aged, some nights, between being asleep and awake, I see what I first thought were spiders in my bed. Or I see large, dark, floating
blobs. But thatâs different. I canât see visuals in my mind. I do dream and can recall some of what I saw in the dreams. I can imagine. I can follow the story in a book and imagine the story, but I canât see it. I guess thatâs why I love movies. The visual is right there.
Iâve always wondered why some people can memorize and retain so much and so easily where I canât. Is it because they can see it in their minds? Probably not. I know Justin has good memory skills.
But either way, Iâm still plugging along with my guitar. Slowly but surely.
I think it is just a different way of memorizing. I think I depend on a lot of repetition, writing it down does help to get things into memoryâŚ
I have great recall for some things, numbers and work details, and much less so for trips I have been on or things I did as a kid. So itâs like my brain prioritizes some things over others. With appropriate prompts I can begin rebuilding memories of holidays or things that happened as a child.
So this thread is working like therapy for me, and I am going to change something about my guitar learning as a consequence. If I write things down, that helps me remember, but for the most part I am not diligent in writing out guitar things. I do have a book, but other than music theory I rarely use it. However I am going to try writing out chord diagrams etc. If I do things on a computer that doesnât aid the memory.
I have written out the lyrics to songs and that has helped me memorize them. This is something that I am going to start doing more. I have been trying to use songbook pro, but I think I need to use that as a memory jogger and writing out the lyrics as part of the learning process.
In fact writing out @LievenDV 's song overview sheet is something that I am going to work on doing to see if the physical transferring of information to paper through my own hand may help. Iâm off to find the templates.
Same here, writing stuff down has always worked for me. My main method of revision for school exams was basically writing my notes out again. I lose focus/interest if I just read and typing isnât the same. I can get away with drawing on the screen of my iPad with Apple Pencil thingy which is my preferred way at the moment as I donât have loads of notebooks lying around and thereâs not loads of things crossed out
Last year I re-taught myself to solve a Rubikâs cube (Iâve since forgotten again as I didnât keep it up). Some people can probably visualise where the pieces are going but I just memorised some series of moves by repetition (eg front, left, front anti, right etc)
So question for the aphantasiacs (completely unrelated to music, but something I was thinking about when mentally âchewingâ on this)âŚis doodling not really a thing for you?
Sitting in class as a kid (or even in conferences as an adult), Iâd doodle all over the margins of my paper - mostly animals when I was a kid, often imagined geometric designs these days, but really flowers, plants, whatever comes to mind. If you were to do the same, would it have to be drawings of objects/people in the room that you can see?
My doodles were always just a mixture of random squiggles and shapes. If they did include things like trees then theyâd be cartoon type trees rather than an actual tree.
I always found I could copy a 2d image from a book cover quite well but wasnât so good at 3d objects and people although I couldnât say whether aphantasia has anything to do with that. I certainly couldnât draw a person from memory and even something like a picture of the front of my house that I see every day would be basic because I know where the doors and windows are
I still draw like Picasso in kindergartenâŚunlike my wife who also sees black when she closes her eyes⌠She paints quite a lotâŚbut not from out the imagination her headâŚ
Very catchy vibe⌠and what I get out of it in lyrics is nice and catchy ⌠but are you now calling my thick-glazed, glasses-wearing girl a blind person? ooo I used to get punished for that âŚ
I am also finding this topic fascinating; I had never heard of it before either. Iâm guessing I donât have it as I can picture all those apples with no problems, and oddly I am now imagining a whole bowl of apples singing with cartoon lipsâŚ
I remember in grade school, age 10-12 or so? Being given a battery of tests. (they loved those things in the 70s), to test our aptitude for various subjects. I scored high in things like art and foreign languages but low in math, and yet I became an engineer even though I really hate mathâŚ
I remember one type of test was in spatial relations, theyâd show a bunch of line connected dots in different orientations and youâd have to match them to a particular image. Apparently, I was very good at this though it was âsupposedâ to be a thing only guys were good at.
Now youâd think that would help me with visualizing the fret board when it comes to translating TAB to finger positions. But no, Iâm still confused by why the TAB seems to be upside down to me, low E on the bottom, high E on the top. My brain just doesnât want to switch it around.
Okay, I have no idea how this relates to the subject, itâs just what popped into my head while reading this thread.
HEY, maybe TAB is why Jimi played his guitar upside down?