Cabling option to AI?

Can someone tell me please…

My footpedal has left/right direct out for AI (xlr) and my G5 Infinium has an emulated output (mono I think, may need to split) TRS Jack

Besides the mono/stereo info…

The footpedal has IR’s the Amp does not.

Q. Does the IR selected in the footpedal also pass through the amps emulated output , or do the Amps interanl settings override that and just take the audio signal?

Q. Would It be better to take the left/right out from the pedal to an AI or go from the Amp to AI

lastly, If i’m using the Amp and footpedal at the same time(with send/return) , can i simutaniously use the l/r out of the pedal to my AI and bypass the amp but still hear myself playing with the amp on :slight_smile:

R.

Is the pedal the Tone King Imperial?

Looking at the manual…

By the looks of it, yes, the pedal IR will be fed to the amp and the emulated output of the G5 will be added to it. The amp only receives one audio signal from the pedal and has no way to strip out any IR or any other effects that have been added by the pedal.

For recording purposes, I would go direct from the Tone King Imperial to the AI.

It depends exactly how you have it cabled. You mention the send/return. From the manual, if you connect the Tone King’s “TO AMP RETURN” to the FX RETURN input of the Bugera, and then connect the guitar to the INPUT on the Tone King, I think this will achieve what you want.

In this case you are bypassing the pre-amp of the G5 completely, and replacing it with the Tone King’s pre-amp.

Cheers,

Keith

yes to tone king, no to bypass, its ultimately the pedal FX I want to hear. :slight_smile:

I’m just not clear what will be happening with signal strength because of the loop and possibly attempting to go from the footpedal XLR to AI at the same time as listening to the Amp, it’s far to complex for me to work out, and certainly not something I would try before asking in case something goes POP. :frowning:

Thank you :slight_smile:
R

There’s a few different ways you can connect the pedal and amp.

So, to be clear, if you do this:

guitar → pedal → G5 amp input

You will are actually doing this:

guitar → pedal → G5 pre-amp → G5 power amp → G5 speaker/cabinet

or, if you are using the line output:

guitar → pedal → G5 pre-amp → Cabinet emulation → headphones

So you will be taking the tones (including any fx) from the pedal, adding the G5 pre-amp tone, and then adding the G5 power amp, cabinet and speaker (or emulation) tones to that.

Everything is additive.

However, if you do this:

guitar → pedal → G5 amp FX return

You will actually be doing this:

guitar → pedal → G5 power amp → G5 speaker/cabinet

or, if you are using the line output:

guitar → pedal → Cabinet emulation → headphones

The difference here is the G5 pre-amp has been bypassed. The G5 pre-amp is where a lot of the tonal characteristic of the G5 comes from, especially on the overdrive channel.

This is what I meant by “bypassing the pre-amp”.

My personal view is that you probably DO want to bypass the G5 pre-amp when using the Tone King, which is why I suggested connecting the Tone King to the G5 via the FX Return.

The XLR outputs to the AI and the other connections to the amp are totally independent. So no need to worry about them.

Regarding signal strength, I wouldn’t worry about that. As long as you are using the amp output or amp return connections on the Tone King and either the amp input or FX return on the G5 you should be fine. The only thing you may need to do is play with the level switch on the FX loop to get it sounding right.

The only time you should make things go POP is if you do something wrong with the speaker outputs. Speaker outputs and other inputs/outputs do not mix.

Also, ensure the G5 always has a speaker connected, as running it without the speaker can damage the output.

Cheers,

Keith

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Thank you, understand now.

:slight_smile:

need some slightly longer cables now lol.

Thanks again.

Rachel.