Facebook it aint !!
Iām not sure where I stand on this because no one has time to read through some of the mega-threads that exist to check that they arenāt asking a question that has already been answered - and also, sometimes the advice evolves over time and new products come out. Equally I get the view point of āyet another thread on that old topicā
I have used a room humidifier that hangs over the central heating radiator, but more recently a damp cloth in the same place, works fine for me!
I agree with you and I feel your first two points far outweigh the 3rd point. I donāt see the practical problems with multiple threads on the same topic.
Indeed, if the thread of the title is one that someone is sick to death of, hereās an idea, donāt read it and donāt comment, outrageous I know!
Interesting how a whole discussion on cluttering the forum clutters a thread about a specific guitar related problem.
Yes, there have been similar questions before, and there will be again in the future. Itās easy to say: āItās all been said before, just read the previous threads.ā. Itās a lot more difficult to find your way in those threads which often have a ton of posts, and often quite a few posts that are off topic. Especially for less experienced people (on the guitar as well as on the forum) it can be quite a challenge to navigate around here and to find what they are looking for, even when they find the correct thread.
You can say that people can post their question in the specific thread, and they could. But chances are answers would evolve towards: āItās been explained before, have you read the previous posts?ā, like they have evolved to having these discussions when someone opens a new thread for a question which has been asked before.
And letās face it: all has been said on here before, so why bother encouraging people to ask any questions they might have - or even having a forum at all if repeat topics are off limits? Can beginning guitarists use the forum only as an information website, wading through a ton of more or less useful and more or less comprehensible posts to look for the answer to their question, until they are experienced enough to ask questions that are difficult/interesting/ā¦ enough for those complaining about simpler questions already having been asked, or until they are brave enough to post a video?
I get that we should try to save the moderators as much work as possible, but there has to be a balance between welcoming and helping newer players and āpolicingā. And letās face it, itās not more work for a mod to move 50 posts over to another topic than 2 once a thread has been started - as long as they are on topic (and yes I realise this one isnāt - but I didnāt start that discussion here).
Toby
As a user of the site now for over a year, Iād like to comment in support of anyone who initiates (yet another) thread on any subject. The site is not very clearly laid out and finding the correct thread for any question you may have in mind is very, very difficult. I speak from my own recent experience trying to find thread(s) about YouTube settings for recordings.
We should welcome newcomers, allcomers, and refrain from shouting you cannot ask that question here.
Brian
I am certainly not saying that and having answering question for over a decade. I am objecting to multiple new topics on the same subject in a relatively short period of time.
As others have tried, if you are aware of a recent post that will be helpful some, point them in that direction. Its also a way of finding your way around, all you need to do is use the search facility, I mean it must be there for a reason. If not find existing topic, then what ?
To clarify.
Nothing wrong with the question. Its the same folk answering and pretty much repeating what they have said in the not too distant past, opposed to
āwe had that same question recently, here is a link to what I and others had to sayā
Its not rocket science, nor is it arduous.
I donāt see any harm in it. In your earlier post you indicated that multiple posts should be avoided to ease the life of the mods. Iām all for easing their life, but once the topic has been created, it doesnāt really mather anymore whether there are 1 or 20 answers, does it?
I for one would prefer an answer like: āHi, this is my answer. You might find more information in this topic.ā rather than just: āHereās a similar topic, go look if you find your answer there.ā.
If you take some of the previous comments to the extreme there would no point in having an āarchiveā of knowledge on the site. Just delete all the threads every month and start again. The site would certainly be very easy to navigate but would, I feel, be pretty useless.
This topic will self destruct inā¦
Word to the wise, it might not have been intended but this comes across as really condescending
Mere observations
This community supports wiki posts which are, basically, posts which can be edited by anyone.
Perhaps we should start making use of this feature to create curated information posts on common subjects, like this one. In this way, we can direct users towards these wiki posts when the questions arise, which will be a lot easier than trawling through long threads.
It may also be easier to find information. And if a new question pops up (such as whether humidifying in the shower is a good idea or not), after some discussion it can be added to the wiki.
If this seems like a good idea, perhaps we need a separate area or topic for such posts.
@Richard_close2u @LievenDV @DavidP thoughts?
Cheers,
Keith
Welcome to the Community.
It is a huge place of many, many topics, so navigating and finding your way can be difficult. Yes, there is a search function and it can be useful if you have a specific question or topic in mind.
Equally, opening up a new conversation on a popular subject is never forbidden. Conversation and engagement from new people is welcome.
FAO those on all sides of the debate who have jumped in and derailed Tonyās topic, please take a moment to reflect. Steering a new memberās post off track and seeming to berate them for a mistake in their first post is not in line with the welcoming spirit that this Community has built up over many years. Once Rogier had helped Tony by extending a smiling welcome and pointing to some existing topics on the same subject, that was all that needed to be said.
If anybody wants to have a discussion about the arrangement of the Community overall that is fine. Create a topic or message the moderators. I suggest that arguing within a new memberās topic is not appropriate and gives a bad impression of ourselves.
To extend and to answer @Majik in particular:
To be honest, Iāll have to look into the pros and cons of the wiki functionality and whether addedd complexity serves its added value. (for any topic, not this one specifically) labelling this to-do prio2.
Iāve been on many forums over the years and Iāve never thought that the ālearn to use the search featureā response was very conducive to building community. I say this in general, it is in no way what so ever a swipe at anyone, please do not take any offense as it is not my intent to offened anyone.
Maybe itās because I spent twenty years working in the hospitality industry where I could be asked to answer the same question a dozen times in an hour never mind in a month or a year. It was all a part of being where I choose to be. . .
In the boat building community, or cars, or Hi-Fi, or astronomy, or photography, and most others, the same topics are rehashed time and time again. In almost every case there is an element of the OP in which they are looking for some reassurance that they are making the right choice or even seeking encouragement. The choices faced by a novice can be overwhelming and sometimes confusing to navigate without any guidance, and I never want to ever deny anyone the benefit of my own experience or that of others. Yes, the answer they are looking for are there to be found, but they donāt necessarily meet any of the human elements of the question being asked.
Anyway, thatās my $0.02 on the topic, and itās worth every bit of what you paid for it.
In the current topics in the āguitars and instrumentsā list thereās another thread on humidifiers and methods to humidify guitars, rooms etc just above this one. Lot of posts on that thread too. Seems to be a popular topic.
As @Richard_N says, if you follow any forum there are recurrent topics. I have followed a few motorcycle forums over the past 20 years and the recurring topic is āwhich tyres to buy for my bikeā. Itās become a sort of joke in those forums. It seems the humidity topic is the ātyre threadā of the guitar world.
However, if you look at how forums work, if you have a specific question, you are not likely to get an answer by posting at the bottom of a long old thread. If you post the question as a new thread, itās more likely to induce an answer.
I live in Chicago, IL USA area. Hot (75-95F), fairly humid summers. Cold (5-35F), fairly dry winters.
I do NOTHING for humidity control, other than normal forced-air heat and air-conditioning (no special humidifier or de-humidifier).
My oldest acoustic is 30 years old. Still looks and plays great!
YMMV