Is it really over?

Not devastating at all for live music, and most listeners don’t care either way if the music sounds good. A song is either good or it isn’t. Plenty of horrible music out there that is not AI.

Now if I can only get AI to fold my laundry.

Two rich dinosaurs worried about money and change in the entertainment industry :roll_eyes:
You couldn’t kill any genre of art if you tried.
It’s so much fun, people will not only make it for free, but they’ll also pay for the privilege :wink:

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Well said. I do see folks forming their musical direction based on what other people think. Maybe more like group-think. I’m kind of glad that AI is shaking things up in musical discussions --draws me to it more than ever. :slight_smile:

where I live, I HIGHLY doubt AI use, even at a basic level, has a prevalent place in the local music scene the way it’s claimed in this video.

I have no doubt that music execs at the “music consumption is a business” level are leveraging it. they’ve been putting out music “to the algorithm” for a LONG time now for popular consumption.

I see those things as quite different from each other. My wife jammed with a lady she met at an open mic a few weeks ago, and that lady told her some stories about how she was up-and-coming in the music world in the 80’s, and that record execs wanted to sign her, but they wanted her to do a whole host of things she wasn’t interested in doing. she felt like it would be giving up who she was and what she loved about music. so she gave that all up.

I see this as no different. people who make music for the pure human creativity of it either won’t use AI at all, or that use will be very minimal. big record labels will use it as the next tool to make music that sells better but isn’t necessarily saying what any artists want to say. artists who want control and agency will tell the labels to f*ck off, and people who want to get in and make as much money as possible will do it. and some young people will be manipulated by a label to play what the AI makes for the promise of a music career. the ease of self-publishing, home recording, and promoting oneself online only give artists who want control of their art the tools to do it without the influence of labels and “the industry”.

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I got to the 1:45 mark and had to bail. A whole lot of cork-sniffery from a self-appointed expert in a short amount of time. Maybe it gets more interesting and helpful later on?

I think the answer is to try it and determine how it can be useful in your own musical/guitar/song writing journey. That continues to be my approach.

Clint

It’s actually very persuasive. Various oddities about ‘Ella’s’ guitars, videos and ‘live’ performances add up to a well argued take-down of a non-existent AI ‘artist’.

Brian

Got it. Ultimately it has no bearing on how I use AI. If you approach AI (or just about anything else) negatively, it will most likely be a negative experience. That said, looking forward to an AI plugin for Garageband.

I have zero interest whatsoever in using AI for my own musical purposes.

I’m not strictly opposed to other artists using it, but I’m not laissez-faire about it, either. I reserve my judgment for each case individually and I’m willing to accept nuance. With that said, I’m strongly opposed to foisting all of the work onto AI systems. The purpose of art is to express emotion and humanity and taking the human element away inasmuch as it’s just a person sitting behind a screen giving the AI prompts, I’m against it.

Clint @CT
I should say from the outset I am a subscriber to the channel.
Putting the AI issue to one side where this gets problematic is around 23 mins where he identifies that ‘Ella’ asks for donations to help children.
Michael

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Follow up video if anybody is interested.

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