Is there any point upgrading my guitar?

As a beginner Iā€™d say do it if you know your current instrument is holding you back.

Iā€™m on a 10 year old Yamaha FG700 i bought when I attempted to learn the guitar and failed miserably. I wasnā€™t sure whether I really needed to upgrade even though the neck is somewhat bowed in the middle and the action is pretty high up the frets. I also didnā€™t really know what to upgrade to due to my preferences and so on.

Iā€™m now in grade 3, and playing more regularly higher up the neck has confirmed that my fingers get strained and potentially injured because of how much more inward it is around frets 5 - 9.

Iā€™m saving up to get something new after I complete Grade 3.

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It sounds like you should get your guitar set up.

Iā€™m not willing to spend $50 - $80 to setup a 10 year old $300 guitar when that money could go towards a new one.

Understandable, but you might find the $80 investment gives you a guitar that plays and sounds as good as a new guitar that costs a lot more than that.

Btw, the age of your guitar could be a virtue, not a defect: many people believe that guitars sound better as they age.

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Does your guitar have a truss rod?

Maybe to you. Others might not agree with this.

Why? Why not one or 1000? Why is 2 or 3 the optimum number?

Define high quality vs price.

How are you so sure about this?
Also, good guitars can sound bad too at the hands of some people, no?

Iā€™ll highlight a point made in the Brandon Acker video that @kimlodrodawa posted. The player (a classical guitar expert) chose the $300 yamaha over a $9K master built guitar because of the playability. The Luthier says he set brandon up on purpose by giving him an affordable guitar that he expertly set up to compare with a master built instrument that needed a setup.

If you acoustic plays nice and stays in tune no need to upgrade unless you donā€™t like the way it sounds.

Iā€™m still a beginner my self and when I was shopping I didnā€™t know anything. I chose for hope the instrument felt (didnā€™t want anything big because Iā€™ve had some shoulder issues in the past). I also know I wanted a next level up from intro because I wanted to put some skin in the game so to speak to ensure I give the new hobby sufficient time before I gave up. Iā€™d have miserably stuck with it because I paid $500 where as i could have quit if I only invested $200. That said I would have stuck with it regardless because its been some satisfying.

I would summarize as if you can afford it there is no reason not to upgrade, but if you struggle to stay in tune, donā€™t like the sound or have to fight the instrument, then upgrade (or expand).

As for your description of your instrument I think your action is a bit on the high side, so a good set up may improve playability.

The other reason you may want do consider a guitar is based on playing style but Iā€™m not well enough informed to guide you on that (e.g. I think that if you like playing finger style a smaller bodied guitar man be better suited than a large dreadnaught)

But in terms of something holding you back, I think itā€™s probably a matter of a good setup vs a bad setup rather than the quality/price of the instrument.

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It is always time for a new guitar. :slightly_smiling_face:
Just because itā€™s cool to have a new guitar. Iā€™m still a beginner in the early stages and already got 4 of them. I play every single one, they donā€™t sound the same, they donā€™t have the same weight, they are pretty and different from each other in many ways. For instance, I tried to be in touch with different body types and brandsā€¦with an acoustic (Yamaha), an electric Les Paul, electric from Fender (Strato) and a SG semi-hollow body electric.
Read my words as a typical symptom of GAS - Guitar Addiction Syndrome.
Do I really need them all to meet my objectives? Of course not. My skills donā€™t even justify more than one. But they did make their job as they served as motivation to keep exploring and also as a kind of reward to myself as I meet my goals.
Not to talk about amps and pedalsā€¦seems this can be a very expensive hobby.

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Dear Kim,

I would like to know how did you decide about buying new instrument and what is your new experience? Its been a while, so sorry for opening old topic, but I am also interested in your folky fingerstyle. Is there any topic I can see your playing level? :slight_smile:

On my own experiencesā€¦ my first guitar cost 70 dollars. Still have it but then i bought Takamine for 380 dollars and it was like stanger instrument that does not belong to me and wasnt nice to meā€¦ like that my first 70 dollars guitar was better in every way, even in sound and colours. So after 14 days I put it back and bought slightly cheaper Fender for 300 dollars and thats my soul, I love it, so price does not always matter and I know it has been told here.
Now I have bone nut and saddle from Thomann ready to change for stock ones and I am learning how to upgrade guitar by my own, I really like it. :slight_smile:

Hi @Carreta, you are right, it has been a year since I asked the question, so itā€™s interesting for me to look back at where I was and what happened next!
The short answer is that I didnā€™t upgrade my guitar. I feel a great affection for it and itā€™s become clearer over the last year that itā€™s me, not the guitar that needs to improve.
That said, I do now own two more guitars in addition to my Aria, but they are for very different purposes.
The first guitar I bought is a Journey Puddle Jumper travel guitar. I made a rule for myself when I started to play that I had to pick up and play the guitar every day, even if for only 5 minutes. This guitar allows me to stick to that rule, although to be honest the action is quite high so I am not a great fan as I really struggle with the F chord on it, but itā€™s better than no guitar when I am travelling.
Itā€™s collapsible (the neck detaches), I can fill the body with soft clothes and take it as hand baggage on flights with me. As I also only had a 2 seater car with very limited luggage space (until three days ago), if I was travelling with a passenger thereā€™s no room for a full size guitar. Yes, I have just bought a bigger car so I can carry my guitars!
The second guitar I was given by a friend was a 1970ā€™s Classical Yamaha. I was getting increasingly frustrated and bored with strumming songs that were unrecognisable if I didnā€™t sing along (which I find very hard with all but a few simple songs) and whilst in holiday in Seville, Spain in November, I took an in person lesson that was an introduction to Classical guitar and loved it. The teacher recommended Yamaha as a brand and my friend knew I was looking and gave me the guitar for Christmas. It would sell for less than Ā£100 (apparently my friend paid Ā£30 for it a few years ago).
The Classical teacher gave me some old books and I started to learn to play from reading music rather than just guitar tab. I also finished Justinā€™s grade 3 on my original Aria acoustic guitar. I was supposed to be consolidating grade 3 for 3-6 months but injured my wrist trying to play Bm barre chords and quite frankly was bored with what I could play and a bit lost as to how to incorporate the skills I had learnt into real music. So I have changed direction, found an in person teacher, taken a step back and am studying for Trinity College Londonā€™s Classical Guitar Grade 1 exam (so learning to read music) and am dabbling with learning more advanced finger style songs using Trinity College Londonā€™s Acoustic guitar Grade 3 material (using tabs as I canā€™t read music well enough yet at that level). I also pick up the acoustic and just play my strumming song repertoire from time to time to keep my hand in, but I am much happier that I am finding my niche as to what I like to play and exploring that. Which is exactly Justinā€™s advice at the end of grade 3.

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Thanks for update. I can see you go through really nice journey and sticking with your guitar and not jumping for new one makes me a little smile, because I can see it likeā€¦ you can have ten woman, but that only one is the right one. If it makes sense. :smiley:
Still I would like to see or hear how are you playing because your journey is interesting. Do you have something on YouTube or you are not that much into it?
I was yesterday on club meeting and teacher showed us how to play barrĆ© F, so ā€œpainā€ starting. :smiley:
As you are saying that you should play what you likeā€¦ this is what I can see right now and I did not even finish my grade 1. Right now I can see I will be more into fingerstyle than regular strumming with pickā€¦ its likeā€¦ when it comes to fingerstyle on easy pattern and few chordsā€¦ I can just close my eyes and to be and not to be there. Hard to explain. :smiley: :slight_smile:

I can relate to this - Iā€™m beginner grade 2 and have two guitars at the moment and plan to get another soon but the pre-purchase guilt creeps in!

Iā€™m justifying it by saying, I want a more ergonomic guitar with a solid body (quieter practicing), itā€™s a reward for completing grade 2 (soon), itā€™s my birthday etc. etc.

I think I will take the advice given previously of going and playing as many as I can and then deciding from there.

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I donā€™t have any videos Iā€™m afraid, not my thing.
There are some great people on here doing classical and finger style though and posting videos, so I am sure you can find some inspiration from them.

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If youā€™re interested in Classical style I have a PDF of a book with 30 pieces in it, youā€™re welcome to download it if itā€™s of use to you. It was a free download from a site I used to be on and itā€™s free from any copyright infringement issues - free to distribute. It has both TAB and standard notation on it which is useful!

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Thank you!

  • Depends on the specific Guitar!.

AND, How the/any Guitar is Set-Up - Strings, Action, Saddle Height, Nut Height, Fret bar Condition & Height etcā€¦

My Suggestion, Take your Present Guitar w/ you to Music Stores/Shops, and PLAY and Compare LOTS of other Guitarsā€¦

And Then, have the Chosen Guitar Set-Up, by an Experienced, Competent Technician/Luthierā€¦