As I mentioned in my first post above, I don’t consider myself “small-handed,” so I didn’t come into this with that as my focus. For me, it’s a broader issue of an ergonomics jigsaw puzzle and trying to suss out what needs improvement and how to get there. I also said later that I was concerned that “smaller hands” being in the title might limit the scope or direct the conversation in ways that could make it less productive. I had no idea.
Richard @Richard_close2u, once again, I can’t thank you enough for the time and effort you put into your detailed analysis and discussion of the forms demonstrated here and the resources you pointed to. Please know that your efforts were not in vain.
Toby @TheMadman_tobyjenner, thank you for both references to the Simon Candy lesson. I’d have watched it sooner if not for a jam-packed summer of activity. I watched it very carefully last night and spent my half-hour of practice focused on doing my very best to adhere to his recommendations. It was physically painful - immediately and sharply - at the back of the wrist and the lower forearm. For the first time, the thought crossed my mind that I might not be able to do this. I kept at it, very gently exploring where the sensation changed from comfort to pain, and I have some ideas. There’s still some discomfort this morning, but I’ll revisit it again tonight. I don’t give up easily.
I fractured my (left/fretting) wrist very badly in 1983. It was bent 30 degrees from where it should have been. It healed quickly and completely but it is almost certainly not exactly where it was before the break. I’d be very surprised if there were not also soft tissue damage to ligaments, tendons, etc. In the 41 years since then, I’ve been extremely physically active with landscaping and other activities, and I worked primarily at a computer keyboard for about 30 years. I have four “trigger fingers” - the middle and ring fingers on both hands. Arthritis is also creeping in. My hands have been used and probably abused. Also of potential consequence, I’ve had two frozen shoulders and brain surgery in which part of my C1 vertebra was removed.
This may make me sound like a health trainwreck, but I’m actually in very good physical shape. I’m 60 years old, still doing the gardening/landscaping that I love and I backpacked 60km/37mi in mountainous terrain last week and will again in a few weeks. I retired last year, I love music, and I’m stubborn. I will find a way to play guitar to the best of my ability, whatever that may mean.
Back to SImon Candy… I realized that I’ve been doing most of what he advises most of the time, and increasingly more often as I continue to monitor and nudge myself toward “good form.” Even the “fanning” of the fingers that he described is something I stumbled into apparently as a matter of necessity. But it has a price. If (without a guitar) I extend my hand forward, palm up, fingers straight, thumb horizontal and then “fan” my fingers, I feel a pretty firm tension in the pinky and ring fingers’ flexor tendons at my wrist as one would expect. If I then add flexion of my thumb to simulate the hand’s shape as if it were on the guitar’s neck, that tension increases and is joined by tension in the thumb flexor tendon. It’s not uncomfortable but would become so if I held it that way for several minutes.
From there, if I flex my wrist as Darrell @DarrellW is here (which I think looks perfect)…
…the back of my wrist hurts in a pretty sharp way. That’s all without any force being applied to fret strings.
Adjustments that I’ve found alleviate that pain significantly are either:
- Pointing the thumb more to the side (i.e. toward the headstock), or
- Bringing the thumb more toward the low E string instead of on the midline of the neck, which reduces the flexion of the wrist.
Since our instinct is to make adjustments to avoid hurting ourselves, I find that I’ll do one or the other of these two things from time to time - even though I know they’re taking me away from the form I’m striving to achieve. BUT. I find that I’m doing them less often than I used to. Unfortunately, I’m also having more pain in my wrist and forearm, which significantly reduces the time I can spend doing all of this as well as my enjoyment of it.
Can I get beyond this pain and achieve the desired form with continued experimentation, stretching, strengthening, and practicing? I sure hope so. That’s my plan. At the same time, Justin, people in this community, and countless others out there say, “If it hurts, stop.” For me, part of the challenge is to find that balance. Somewhere along the way, I may have to decide to compromise ideal form for functionality and comfort. But I’m not there yet.