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Can you use these 10 licks with Gm scales we have learned?
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You can transfer any minor pentatonic lick to any key. The patterns are the same only the position on the neck changes.
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I use the Fender app for tuning but it also has Scales and Drums.
What Justin mentions as pattern 1 - it’s pattern 3 in the fender app.
What Justin mentions as pattern 2 - it’s pattern 4 in the fender app.
The fender app can display both pentatonic and blues scales.
I tried to figure out the key for a song by playing major pattern 1 and got confused by the blue note - I had not yet learnt the blues scale.
For me it is easier to remember the shape justin pattern 1 moved to a different root note with compensation for the B-string 3rd tuning while the others string are 4ths. A 5 string instrument with an extra Ee string?
When I played the flute 30 years ago the standard notation just automatically transferred into playing without thinking in shapes or which lids to press. Hope to reach that level on the guitar some day. Back then I never studied any music theory - just playing notes from standard notation. The Guitar is different.
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Hello @ecsfros and welcome to the Community.
Justin’s teaching adheres to near-universal conventions.
Pattern 1 is the E-shape.
Pattern 2 is the D-shape.
Pattern 3 is the C-shape.
Pattern 4 is the A-shape.
Pattern 5 is the G-shape.
The only reason I can think that Fender app deviates from this norm is to place the C-shape as pattern 1 so their sequence matches the letter order of CAGED rather then EDCAG.
That might make sense but it is not the approach most teaching uses.
ps
Do not confuse pattern with position. Position, when rightly used, references fret numbers, not a movable pattern.
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I think in the fender app pattern 1 is the one closest to the nut and then the pattern increase moving in the direction to the soundhole. But maybe there is some other logic behind it that I have yet to understand.
The “Blues immersion” video is really good - answers many questions.
https://www.youtube.com/live/TVu4oJZO5nA?si=VghBnOW93OKXQAWs
Hmm - maybe I got the idea wrong for remembering the shapes.
I should not be thinking I move the justin pattern 1 to a different root note?
Rather think I play E-shape - pattern-1, D-shape pattern-2 and so on?
Is there a video explaining the below?
Minor Pentatonic Pattern 1 is the E-shape.
Minor Pentatonic Pattern 2 is the D-shape.
Minor Pentatonic Pattern 3 is the C-shape.
Minor Pentatonic Pattern 4 is the A-shape.
Minor Pentatonic Pattern 5 is the G-shape.
Is the advanced waltzing matilda standard notation/tab in the folk fingerstyle class available? I have no CD player.
These scale patterns are movable. For some keys pattern 1 will be closer to the nit than other patterns in that same key but for other keys it will not, and another pattern will be the one closest to the nut.
You should - that is exactly the way to think of them.
Pattern 1 at fret 5 = A minor pentatonic.
Pattern 1 at fret 10 = D minor pentatonic.
Pattern 1 at fret 0 (open strings instead of playing a line of fretted notes with index finger) = E minor pentatonic.
Patterns 1 & 2 here: https://www.justinguitar.com/modules/essential-blues-lead-guitar
Patterns 3-5 here: https://www.justinguitar.com/modules/blues-solos-all-over
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I know Justin recommends using fingers one and three on the B and E strings but is there any downside to starting off with fingers two and four. Right now I am trying to work on finger independence. I get I will want to use the third finger when it comes time to bend or hit the Blue note on the high E string, but I am most interested in finger independence right now and it seems using all four fingers in this pattern will help me with that independence.
Hey @frito, I’m not an expert lead player by any means, but here’s my take…
Personally, I would work on pinky independence doing stuff that actually requires the use of the pinky.
Pattern 2 of the minor pentatonic requires a lot of pinky work on the lower strings, so you’re not exactly neglecting the pinky. (BTW, lots of people, including myself, tend to neglect the low strings on pattern 2, opting to slide up from pattern 1 only on the higher strings. If you learn the lower half of patten 2 well, you’ll be working on that pinky.)
Or focus on the E and B strings of pattern 1, where the the pinky is typically used on fret 8. Or just generally find some licks that use the pinky and learn them.
I guess I never understood the logic of learning something the “wrong” way in order to develop some other skill. I prefer to learn the other technique by using it in the context where it’s normally used.
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Obviously downside is bending but I think just like chords it’s good to get used to different fingering options as you may just be playing passing notes rather than bends and alternative fingering options maybe more efficient.
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