Molly's guitar journey

Here’s to a new year and the start of my guitar travel log. The journey started over 18 years ago. I had a really great start. But still I reached a plateau after a few years - once you’re no longer a beginner there are so many options to explore. It’s so easy to try too many things too quickly and loose focus and direction. And that happened to me. Treading water, no (perceived) progress. Paired with a busy job and the end result is guitars back in their coffins.

But something really important was missing. It took me a while to figure out what exactly, and to remember what made me want to learn to play guitar in the first place and where/when/why I got lost. In 2021 I was finally ready to pick up the guitars again.

I now have adopted a random walk approach for my guitar journey. I no longer use practise routines or note down how much time I have spent on this or that. Instead I work through a long list of songs that I really, really, really want to be able to play one day. The list is a Hydra, for every song I tick off at least two new ones come on. But I don’t take it too strictly anyway, it’s just a backlog to pull from. And every now and then there is a queue-jumper that has to be learned right away…but that’s fine, because it’s all about playing things that make me want to pick up the guitar in the evening even if I am tired. Technique-wise I work on whatever the song needs. I’ve ditched the structured approach and replaced with targeted exercises. Over time the mosaic fills out just the same.

But I also like to give the random walk some direction. So at the start of every year I write down some objectives or targets where I want to be in a year’s time and then I review at the end where I have come out. I find a year a suitable period for me - it’s long enough to offer some flexibility with how much time is spent on what. Or swap out goals. And it is also long enough that there will be progress to notice. So less stress more fun.

I think of this log as postcards from my journey. When I find something new I am excited about I’ll put it here. Like last year when I figured out that one of the queue-jumping songs was Dorian and why that made me like the song so much. But that’s last year.

For 2025 I have laid it all out as follows. I have a few focus areas I want to spend time exploring and I might not even get round to all of them. Some have even been there last year and were rolled over when the year ran out. The same can happen at the end of this year. But that’s ok.

  • Norman Blake: study his style and learn some of his songs and solos. He is more musical and less mechanical than most other bluegrass players. And he played guitar on one of my favourite Steve Earle albums, several songs of which are on the really-really-really want to be able to play song list. And it will help me improve my flat picking further.

  • Gillian Welsh & Dave Rawlings: now this is tricky because their music does not translate well from two guitars to just one. But I have had a couple of their earlier songs on my repertoire list from way back before my hiatus, but played with very simple guitar accompaniments. They can do with an upgrade, if nothing else.

  • Acoustic Blues: this is an area I have been struggling with for a while. Something I wanted to be able to do since forever but I have not really found a good way to approach it that works for me. I have some ideas for this year that I will try, going by key rather than song, and learn where on the guitar things happen in the key of A and then in the key of E.

  • JJCale deep dive: about time. His music is so cool. But why?

  • Explore Open D and Open E: I have not explored any alternate tunings yet, and was generally indifferent about it but I noticed that there are now at least 5 songs on my list that are in either Open D or Open E so maybe it’s time to give this a try.

  • Rodney Crowell deep dive: he is such a great song writer and producer. One of his more recent albums really struck a chord with me and I want to learn some of the songs or just look closer at what he is doing to learn some tricks.

These are the focus areas. I won’t spend all my guitar time on the focus areas because 1) too many queue-jumpers cry out for immediate attention regularly 2) I always work on at least one finger-picked song, they take longer to learn and 3) I hope to contine with Open Mics this year, and they require crowd-pleasing songs on the set lists, which also need to be practised

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Hi Molly might try that myself so many songs so little time I can play a lot of songs badly would like to play a few less but well, just added another five or seven to my song book to learn one more to add and that`s it for this year no more, also still following the Justin course at the moment grade 2 module 11 still trying to master happy birthday and Oh Christmas tree, may move on to mod 12 soon but still practice those two.

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Hi Molly, having listened to a couple of your songs here (love that you did Blaze Foley) and having read your journey here I think we have a lot of overlap in our journeys and guitar interests.
Only your history is much longer and wider. I’m 4 year in and began after retirement at 65.
Very very quickly I began as most all beginners do, learning basic chords, choosing songs (often bad choices) and attempting to improve. However I find I am a bit unsatisfied with strumming and singing as my primary motivation. These days I seldom pickup a pick. I’m attempting to combine Travis picking as a foundation of arranging chord-melody with patters such that I produce either a version of a song with vocals (less melodic with the guitar) or a version with little or no vocals (but more melodic with the guitar).

Anyway, you seem to me to have at least a somewhat similar approach. Your work is inspirational to me. So wanted to shoutout a thank you. I have a long way to go but enjoying the journey.
The only fingerpicking songs I have posted this far are pretty much using patterns and accompanying with vocals. Haven’t done one in a long time now. But now working on attempting to be more melodic on the guitar. Maybe someday I’ll post one of these attempts. However unlike strumming chords, the process is much less forgiving. Tough to get through a song (for now anyway).

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JJCale deep dive: about time. His music is so cool. But why?
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because !

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Thank you so much Mike @MiJoy for your very kind comment and even for fishing out this post from obscurity! I had big plans at the start of last year and then never wrote any update at all. I was just too busy most of the time.

It makes me very happy to read that you find inspiration in my posts! Sharing progress here with like-minded people who follow the same guitar journey is really encouraging, and I have got so much inspiration from other posts, too, so I am glad I can give back in a way.

As for fingerpicking songs, yes they take longer to learn and to develop to the level that you are able to play through in full. There is just so much more happening for the muscle memory to direct the right fingers to the right strings at the right time. But it is also so much more fun, right? I have found it does get easier with time though (which should be no surprise in general as all guitar-related things get easier eventually). Playing songs with just simple patterns, Travis or otherwise, is an important stepping stone. With hindsight I can say now that I have attempted some songs with melodies too early. But because they were songs I really wanted to play I stuck it out with them and practised them slowly for months until they finally came together.

I had a Eureka moment at some point last year when I realised that there is another approach to learning a song: slow down for sure (we all know that) but the other is simplify. That Blaze Foley song I posted last summer (the big cheeseburgers) has a couple of really tricky bars in it. They are impossible to practise from 0 to 100 all notes at once. There is a limit to how much you can slow down with the brain still realising that it’s all just one bar. But if you simplify enough you can play a fingerpicked tricky bar at speed sooner. So in Travis picking the most basic simplification is just playing the thumb. Once you know the chords and which strings the thumb is going to target it’s usually just a 4/4 thumb pick every quarter note - simple! And when I can play that at tempo then I start adding one additional note at a time - one note more to the 4 thumb picks is not much more and you can often do that without slowing down. And when that works add another note, and then another and you will be surprised how much easier this approach is because you are not overstressing your brain - you add just one little bite at a time. If I think back at all the things I have learned last year, this was the most important of all.

Because you can extend it beyond conquering a tricky bar in a fingerpicked song. I now apply variations of this everywhere:

  • if I learn a new song it’s ok to start with just the chorus or verse if they are different - learn the other parts on one of the next days (smaller bitesize) - and break down futher if there are complicated things in the music
  • when singing over a finger picked song start out with singing just over the thumb (simplify the picking so the brain can focus on getting the phrasing right over a simple rhythm) and when that works add a few more notes at a time and build up the complexity of the fingerpicking that way
  • when learning lyrics of a song start with the first verse, learn lyrics of another verse only when I rememer the first (smaller bitesize concept)
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I like the concept of beginning w thumb then adding a note at a time. Next song I attempt from the beginning I’m gonna give that a go.
I find that when attempting to add more melody, especially when the song varies from a specific defined pattern (like Dust In The Wind perhaps) it complicates the learning process considerably.
Taking it in smaller notes one bar at a time just may help.
I’m glad I’m retired, I’d never have had the time for this prior to retirement w the schedule I had :wink:.

Lots of amazing advice in here, @MollyT!

How to learn a folk-fingerstyle song step by step

Every so often I see comments from people working through Justin’s folk-fingerstyle lessons in Grade 5 and that they find them a challenge. Yes, it takes time to build the muscle memory, but I also think that it would be easier to conquer the technique successfully if patterns are built up by baby-step increments from a simple base line. And rather than writing it all out in English I thought it would be more helpful if I show you with an example what I mean with all this. It is the gist of what I have learned about how best to learn a folk-fingerstyle song.

I started my folk-fingerstyle journey 4 (?) years ago and it took me 4 months to learn a simple song. It took me another 3 months to be able to also sing it. Looking back I can say now that I approached it all wrong and I only stuck with it because I really wanted to learn how to play that song. But it really doesn’t need to be such a wrestle!

Last year I transcribed Gillian Welsh’s version of “Make me down a pallet on your floor” which is a traditional song recorded by many artists at various virtuosity levels. Gillian’s version is fairly laid back and had been on my list of want-to-learn songs for a while. When played live there are two guitars but the studio version is just one guitar, so the version to go for :slight_smile: Transcribing the recording was a mixed bag, some bars you can hear the guitar clearly, other bars not so much, either because Gillian’s voice was much louder or because the picking was muted as can easily happen (sometimes deliberatly so) when singing+picking at the same time. Then there is a lot of variation between what is played/audible on the various verses, and no clear instrumental run-through. So I ended up creating a consolidated tab that consists of the variations I hear most often and/or most clearly.

If you look at the tab you can see there is a lot going on, and while some things are simple (like the thumb is alternating stricly only between the 6th and the 4th string because the C chord is played with G in the base) there are lots of different patterns used. If you have never learned a folk-fingerstile song before, or just one or two simple ones, do not learn the tab as it is written, that will only twist your fingers and your brain.

Instead lets break it down into what is happening here. Most bars tie back to and are variations of one of three patterns. The most used pattern is this one where the thumb plays on every beat of the bar on 1, 2, 3, and 4, and where on 2a the second finger (the middle finger) plays a string and on 3a the first finger plays a string:

Basic Pattern 1
1  a  2  a  3  a  4  a 
T     T  2  T  1  T

I’ve deliberately not tied any finger to a string because that’s not really what matters most: first your brain needs to learn to coordinate which finger to move in the right order, which strings to pick comes second. I’ll come back to that.

If you change the order of the first and second finger you have:

Basic Pattern 2
1  a  2  a  3  a  4  a 
T     T  1  T  2  T

And then there are the bars where there is a “pinch” i.e. where two strings are picked at the same time with thumb and one other finger. So the thumb still picks a string on every beat, but the second finger picks a string on beat 2 at the same time as the thumb (and not on beat 2a as in Basic Pattern 1):

Basic Pattern 3
1  a  2  a  3  a  4  a 
T     T2    T  1  T

And this “Basic Pattern 3” is of course Pattern 2 and Pattern 4 of Justin’s folk-fingerstile patterns. But these pinches take some time to get working and sound clean, so it is much easier to start with patterns that don’t have pinches like Basic Patterns 1 and 2 above. I’ll come back to that when I go through the steps of how to practise this song.

So if you look at Bars 1,5 and 17 of the consolidated tab they are just a variation of Basic Pattern 3 where the second finger also picks a string on the beat 4a:

Bars 1,5,17: Basic Pattern 3 variation 1:
1  a  2  a  3  a  4  a 
T     T2    T  1  T  2

And Bar 9 is a variation of the variation where only the second finger is used:

Bar 9: Basic Pattern 3 variation 2:
1  a  2  a  3  a  4  a 
T     T2    T  2  T  2

Bars 2, 6 and 10 are padded-out variations of Basic Pattern 2 where there are also picks on the beats 1a and 4a:

Bars 2,6,10: Basic Pattern 2 padded out:
1  a  2  a  3  a  4  a 
T  2  T  1  T  2  T  1

And analogously Bars 4, 8 and 14 are padded-out variations of Basic Pattern 1:

Baes 4,8,14: Basic Pattern 1 padded out:
1  a  2  a  3  a  4  a 
T  1  T  2  T  1  T  2

I’m sure your head is spinning now - because even though every basic pattern is simple and every variation is just a small change, there are too many of them and they are too similar to learn them all at once and in one go. You will just muddle them up in your head.

Step 1: Instead start as simple as possible: First learn the base line and what the thumb does. Because lets face it, if you can’t play just the baseline with your thumb alone cleanly you will not be able to play the complete pattern cleanly. I have created a tab for just the base line so you can’t get distracted :slight_smile: As baselines go this one is fairly simple - yes it alternates, but it alternates strictly just between the 6th and the 4th string as the C-chord is played over G.

Step 2: When you can play the base line confidently then add more notes and other fingers as tabbed here. I suggest as Step 2 to play the entire song using Basic Pattern 1 as that’s the basis for most bars of the song. Start simple with the first finger playing only string 3 and the second finger only playing string 2 in addition to the alternating thumb. If you find it a stretch to add both first and second finger in one go, then break this down further and only start adding the second finger pick on beat 2a until you can play that confidently, and only then add the first finger pick on beat 3a.

Step 3: When you can play the Step 2 version confidently it’s time to shake things up, because there are some notes played on the first string at important points in the song and where they add more sparkle to the song. I have created a new tab for Step 3 here to show how that changes the picking. You have basically two options (and both will be awkward at first!): you either bring in your third finger (the ring finger) or your first and second finger cover more than one string. I know that most introductions to fingerstyle playing align the ring finger to the first string, but really the notes that are played on the first string are often important melody notes and why would you play important notes with your weakest finger? So I tend to cover the first string with my second (middle) finger, the third string with my first finger and the second string with whichever is best suited and gets there most easily. There is no rigid allocation, whichever flows best, and it can take try-and-error to find out which is the best fingering for a particular passage. But overall I find that most often my middle finger covers both first and second string as it is my longest finger and my hand position moves least. Ergonomics. But everyone is different so you have to experiment and find out what works best for you. And that may well be using your ring finger. But just remember that it does not have to be the ring finger so feel free to not use it. You’ll be in good company :slight_smile:

Step 4: When you can play the Step 3 version confidently it’s time to bring in the pinch. I would recommend to initially play the entire song using just Basic Pattern 3. I’ve tabbed out how this could look like here . If you find it too complicated at first to cover notes on both first and second string when pinching add another step so that you are back to using just four string (2,3,4 and 6). Pinching take time to feel and sound right, everyone goes through that.

And then you can extend Step 4 and try out playing other patterns and see how they feel and sound like. As long as you change the pattern for the entire song so that you are playing through the song with just one pattern. You can try out using Basic Pattern 2 from above, or any of the listed variations, or try out some of the other patterns Justin shows in his video. (Although personally I don’t like the sound and feel of using a pinch on beat 1 in this song. Fine in other songs, but not here, not to my ears.)

Step 5: Only now start combining the patterns. That is surprisingly hard at first. So as always, take the step in as easy a way as possible and that is just alternate between Basic Pattern 3 and Basic Pattern 1 as tabbed out here. And once you have that in your fingers you will be surprised of how close this will get you to the feel of the song as played on the record.

Next steps: Actually this is where I would stop if you have just started out your fingerstyle journey. The next steps are much harder to achieve, and your time, when starting out, is better spent on getting a few songs in your fingers using just one or two basic patterns and building up your stamina that way - you’ll be using different chords, different base lines, different patterns so you’re building up muscle memory that way and you’ll have a few songs that you can play beginning to end in fingerstyle. It will feel more of an achievement. And then you can come back and look at what is still missing between the tab for Step 5 and my consolidated tab.

First there are the variations to play where the bars are padded out with more picks. You will need to stay in control in your head of the order of patterns during the chord progression. E.g. in the first half of the song the patterns alternate between bars with pinches and padded out bars, and in the second half of the progression some pinched bars are replaced with simple Basic Pattern 1 bars. So extra mental attention required that you only have once the individual pattern are on autopilot one pattern at a time.

And then there is Bar 9. Of all the bars that took me the longest to practise to get it sound nice and get my left hand moving in and out of position, at the same time as the pattern for the right hand is different because the same finger picks the same string three times in a row which for some reason is always more awkward than alternating fingers. Something to do with when walking you alternate your feet so “alternating” is a way to achieve “equilibrium” and that is preferred.

Singing: If you want to sing the song start learning to sing it once you are playing Step 1 confidently. Honestly. You can sing over just the base line and it will be ok to any listener. Also because the base line is such a simple rhythm it will ground and anchor your phrasing. Your brain will remember where the vocal melody is once you start picking more strings. So once you can play Step 2 confidently try and sing over that, too. If you can sing over the base line it will not be too hard to manage to sing over a simple pattern (especially because in Step 2 you are not yet changing strings). And so on. And by the time you have reached Step 5 it will just be a bit more effort to get used to singing when you are changing patterns. But if you only start to sing when you can play at the Step 5 level you will find that very hard to get to work.

Demonstration: I’m going to take a video of all the steps so you can see and hear how it evolves. It’s just got a little too late to do it today but by next weekend it should be here.

Feedback: Let me know how you are getting on and if there are any questions. And let me know if this is helpful and you want me to break down more songs like this.

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This is fantastic @MollyT! Thank you so much!!

Thank you so much Molly!

Here is finally the promised video :slight_smile:

I can’t seem to set chapters on my youtube videos, so here is the menu:
0:00 just thumb (Step 1)
0:29 just thumb with singing
0:59 basic pattern 2 (Step 2)
1:28 basic pattern 1 (Step 2)
1:56 basic pattern 1with singing
2:30 basic pattern 1 with notes on 1st string (Step 3)
3:03 pinches (Step 4)
3:28 alternating between two patterns (Step 5)
3:55 Step 5 with singing

I’ve also taken a video of me playing my final version and singing, and I am not sure which version I like better - the final version has more fancy stuff in it (but not too much) but because there are so many different things happening it makes my timing a bit wobbly. By comparison Step 5 with singing sounds already pretty interesting but it easier to stay calm and keep the beat steady.

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