Hello fans and other music practitionersā¦
I had expected a little more enthusiasm or even a small conversation about this subject allreadyā¦ When I heard this news on the radio I thought for a moment " let it rest just like a seamanās grave", but soon I realized that if even one person is happy with the new song, it is already worth it, and I think there are even thousands of people full of anticipation and fun/pleasure going to find in itā¦I can hardly wait for the people who himself calling ā¦ serious peopleā¦ to start nag about a song on my news radio stationā¦
I was reading about this yesterday Rogier on the very same source as you have posted. Interesting stuff and very clever too. Iām looking forward to hearing what it sounds like.
I was mortified when I read the headline in a local paper this morning. It was something along the lines of āMcCartney to use AI to record new Beatles trackā. I was relieved to see it was just Now and Then; a song that was meant to be part of the anthology series but wasnāt recorded due to George not believing the vocal was a high enough standard. Advances in technology plus George not being around anymore has made it possible. Paul has always wanted it to be released.
I have not read or heard that ā¦ it was a fairly short message on the news and I have looked for an English article which I āscannedā very quickly, thank you for that info ā¦ I do not have a CD myself or LP of them (I hope Gordon doesnāt read this)ā¦but Iām glad they existed
Greetingsā¦
ā¦absolutely many will follow, the advantage is that we donāt have to listen to it if we donāt want toā¦unless everyone here is going to cover those songs, well then I must ā¦
Greetingsā¦
āAIā often needs a modifierā¦I know when I see the term, my mind immediately jumps to āgenerative AIā which is powered, as I (barely) understand, by large language models. That doesnāt seem to be whatās going on here. Interested in insight from more sophisticated followers of these technologies!
Hi Judi ,
Nice that you are interested but I am going to drop out ā¦ I can still imagine the simplest explanation of what and how they did ā¦ but hopefully this will not become too technical a thread later , I donāt do that ā¦
Greetingsā¦
Ooo butā¦everyone can say what they want to discuss here, only Iāll drop out ā¦thereās a lot of hassle coming up with this techniqueā¦
Greetingsā¦
I say Live and Let Live
Itās his job and what he does/is. Many will be happy about it.
Tbh, if he decided to reform the Beatles with Yoko Onoās hairdresser, George Harrisonās gardener and Ringoās canary, it wouldnāt bother me in the slightest. And many would still be happy about it.
Iāll be more interested to see how he reacts in a couple of yearsā time when we can say: āComputer, make me a music video of Paul McCartney singing aboutā¦ā
Heās an astute businessman as well as a good songwriter. (I still donāt like Obladiblada )
Hi B rian,
I hope it is clear that I feel the same way when it comes to their (old) or new or ā¦ songsā¦but here again there was serious talk by āconnoisseursā on a news radio station about how good or bad it would be (and guess what prevails) ā¦ and Iām sure theyāll put it up a notch when the song is outā¦ But for all I care they play their instruments with theirā¦BEEPā¦huhā¦,with their BeePā¦nooo computer is broken ā¦
I just hoped that many people will enjoy it and if not then just donāt listen to it (unless you start working with it like a butcher of course) ,and others well then I will listen carefully
Greetingsā¦
I donāt claim to understand it either, but for a quick, free way to check out whatās possible, look at Moises. It will quickly and very successfully extract vocals and instruments into separate tracks, which you can then mute or solo.
It sounds like Mcartneyās producer used something similar.
Iāve tried many of these apps, and this one is next level. The free version is very capable right out of the box, and very easy to use. (Musopia could learn a lot from these folks).
Also has a āsmart metronomeā feature that figures out the tempo and overlays a click on any songā¦really useful for figuring out complex rhythms.
I have a feeling this is a game changerā¦and itās just the start!
Hi Tom, thanks for sharing that. I have used Lalal.ai and it seems okay, but in your experience is Moises significantly better? Had a quick gander at the website and seems pretty good. This type of āAIā is a great use of the technology, super helpful for creating custom backing tracks (appreciate some may disagree )
Hmm this is interesting . Have you tried using it to remove a guitar part (i.e. create a backing track for practice)? As in, are there alternatives to hoping to find something suitable on Youtube?
Hi Hilary, Lalal.ai does that pretty well from my experience however it looks as though Moises may do it much better based on @Tbushellās comments above. I regularly use the resulting files (with guitar removed & sometimes vocals also) as backing tracks for practice or performance when a YouTube version was either not exactly what I was after or not available. Works well