Oh Yeah recording

Go easy on this! Recently downloaded Reaper so this is my first attempt at recording something (I’m not sure why i called it Oh Yeah). The drums are a VST plugin, and the guitar is my recently acquired Epiphone LP and Boss Katana 50. I need to work on my timing a bit, the song needs arranged better, and i’ll work out how to add a bass guitar line using a plug in or a keyboard. I might even try to think of lyrics and a vocal melody!

Listen to Oh yeah by C_McG on #SoundCloud

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Colin

Can’t hear any guitar: just an odd drum pattern. This is either the wrong recording or you’ve not recorded what you thought you had. Can hear some very quiet guitar at c. 2:40 and then it goes again.

Brian

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Hmm. Seems to work ok for me. I’ll investigate…

It does sound like the drums are over powering the guitar sound a good bit. But I can hear the guitar. It sounds cool. I can

Love that fuzz. :sign_of_the_horns:t2::sign_of_the_horns:t2:

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Thanks @Ontime. The drums definitely sound to loud in the mix - I don’t think they were that loud before I rendered it. I’ll try adding a bass guitar line this evening, and I’ll turn down the drums a bit.

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I do like the metal-ish flavor a lot :sign_of_the_horns:

Just out of curiosity since I love experimenting with programming virtual drums: Which VST did you use for the drums? Have you programmed them yourself? :slightly_smiling_face:

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It sounds great Colin!

Agree with the others that the balance is a bit drum-heavy, but that’s an easy fix. Also for me, the overall level seemed a bit low. In Reaper, when you bring up the “Render” screen, if you click “postprocess” , then select “normalise”, and set the LUFS-I level to -14dB, that seems to work for me. I also usually choose “2nd pass render” on the main render screen.

…but the overall song construction sounds great and your guitar tone is spot on!

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Hi @JokuMuu. Thanks for listening! I used some of the preprogrammed stuff on MT Power Drum Kit.

Thank you so much for the advice @twistor59. Much appreciated!

Well done on making a first recording in Reaper and sharing, Colin.

Guitar sounds great, spot on for that style of metal, with some cool variations and enjoyed the tone and lines in the lead.

Simply drop the slider on the drum track and all will be well.

You will find free VST plug-ins for bass. Maybe try this one: IK MULTIMEDIA. SOUND BETTER.

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I am between the first post and the others…
I could hear your guitar and could make out it probably sounds great but it was sooo much quieter than those drums!

Yes, adjusting the gain of those tracks is essential!

I’d second David’s suggestion for Modo Bass!

Curious to hear the next version! :slight_smile:

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Thanks for the feedback and the VST tip. Much appreciated!!

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Thanks for all the advice @Ontime @domi7 @twistor59 @JokuMuu. I had the misfortune of not saving the Reaper project properly, so pretty much having to rerecord from scratch (so it’s now called Oh Nooooooo). The guitar tone doesn’t sound as good to me, but that could be Reaper ineptitude. The free Modo Bass sound was ideal. I changed the composition a wee bit too. I’m still not dulky happy with the levels, but its a song i’m going to develop further.

Listen to Oh Nooooooo by C_McG on #SoundCloud

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Great! Much better balanced now!
Heavy stuff! :slight_smile:
If you’d like to… you could pan the instruments a bit left or right?
Instruments with lots of bass most often are recommended to leave in the center (like bass, drums, also vocals are mostly around (or dead) center.
But guitars for example are nice to be panned a bit left or right (or even a lot if you like it, or (and) have some stereo effect. (ALso both of your guitars panned not at the same place.
And if then you feel like it would work for your guitars - cut off some bass (high pass filter) so the bass would have a bit more space in the mix.

Sorry - it’s a lot I have to say, but I think then your mix could be already pretty good.

PS. Ah, you could possibly still find your old audio files in some folder? I don’t klnow Reaper really, but my DAW keeps them in an “audio” folder and when I mentioned this to some Reaper user recently he could find his older (thought lost) recordings somewhere.

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Thanks again @domi7 - i really appreciate the advice!

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Sweet Colin that was fully tight. I was stoked you had a nice solo in there and everything. It’s coming togeather well.

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I tend to agree with you on the guitar tone sounding better in the first version. Apart from that: Absolutely no need for renaming it to “Oh nooo…”, it’s still definitely “Oh yeah” for me. Looking forward to following how you will develop your song.

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Sounds great, Colin. Balance between guitar and drums is spot on.

Some excellent tips from @domi7

To add to that what you can also try is recording the rhythm guitar parts twice. Play the parts the same. Then pan one left and the other right, perhaps use some virtual VST amp and effects pedal plugins to have different guitar tone on each. That will add width and extra fullness to the overall sound.

Panning the guitars will also leave space in the centre for the bass to be a little more prominent.

When I mix I often start with the drums solo, getting the right balance between kick, snare and cymbals. Then add the bass. Using EQ to boost and cut frequencies of the kick and bass so they don’t clash. Thereafter come guitars, vocals, keys.

You’ll find loads of learning material on YouTube to get your head around recording and mixing. When I started this was my go to: https://www.youtube.com/@recordingrevolution

Have fun, it’s another musical journey but one I have loved as much as playing.

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Great tip! It sounds so much better!

Can second everything David said. I just wanted to stop at some point and not scare you :slight_smile:

@DavidP I’ll look at recordingrevolution too - but for now wanted to finish all the free courses on that other site first… oh, well, that’s quite a way to go, lots of free intro courses, at some point, I think they’re paid, but I’ll possibly never get this far anyway :slight_smile: Mastering.com Courses

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