Playing scales on any fret - discovering life truth

Hey there,

I just wanted to share with you something that I found by myself and I guess everyone else knew it except me… Grade 2 Module 10 student here…

Yesterday I started to learn using Boss Katana MK2 with electric guitar and while I was trying some effects with chords and note pick… I tried to do C major scale without open string on 5th fret and… it is working and it sounds amazing. I tried it on 8th fret and so on and GUESS what? It works on all fret!

Maybe you will laugh to me now, but I really did not know it is working like this and finding it out by myself like this was really exciting moment, cant describe it. :smiley:

Are there more “secrets” that I dont know? Because till this time I was stucked to first 4 frets and could not imagine how to go further… but with this knowing its changing everything. This will make me pick electric and doing scales much more… even just for free note picking from scale so it sounds farly like a melody. :smiley:

Bonus: I found chord “Open Emaj7” and its really great one and different from what I played till this time… it on 6/7/8th fret, you can try it if you dont know. Is it correct name? Sean is saying that. :smiley:

You can check it here in Sean Daniels video. What do you think about this chord? Isnt it great? Did you know it?

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Hi Michal ,
You have discovered part of the CAGED, the 1rd letter and that is the C in open position … start on the 5th fret A string there is the D note and you play the D- scale etc… Actually it is a step ahead of what is to come, but you will still discover so many “secrets” :smiley: and that is a wonderful feeling when things suddenly reveals itself (especially at the right order of learning) because everything that has learned before merges together makes sence etc :sweat_smile: :partying_face:

Greetings And have a lot of fun and no more boredom for you :sunglasses:

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There are the occasional lightbulb moments. My first was discovering the Am scale was the same as C major. Later the other was finding major pentatonic is the same shape as minor pentatonic. You never stop learning.

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Correction It’s the CAGED System. 1st letter letter is the C shape and is movable all ovet the neck as long as you fret the open strings as you move the shape.

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Thanks Rick,
I make the mistake because the pronunciation here is very difficult (and for me the G sound is also first as in the middle) and when I explain it face to face I only mention it once and then switch to EDCAG … my thoughts from it is the 3rd scale they have completely taken over…

As if this still makes sense :roll_eyes:

Greetings

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@roger_holland Richard was the person who started that edcag because most people learn the E shape minor pentatonic first because it’s the easiest.

I have always disagreed with this because the CAGED system stems from the Major chord shaped not the minor pentatonic scale and the C major scale is the only Major scale you can play in open position without modifing the shape.
So for your sake you’d be better off learning CAGED in this order so you don’t give out the wrong information by mistake.

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Okay, but I learned it from Justin and I once read that @Richard_close2u took it over from Justin (correcr me if i am wrong please)… …even put the Tour De France on hold for a while in the hope of not writing strange mistakes again, :grimacing:

The CAGED comes of the Major as I also think that way, so then the 3rd is the C shape and then it would still be local To call it EDCAG…

Oo what am I missing? (Edit: I think I found It)

Edit…

This I understand what you mean and I read that to from many regulars here why they prefer EDCAG…
But for me it is much more logical for a different reason…The one I try to explain with to many words that the third scale is the 3e letter … (funny, I made a mistake, but that is due to a reading/writing/listening problem in another language)

It would have saved me a lot of time to learn the EDCAG instead of how it is usually taught…but I have to say right away that I learned it before I came to Justin and by a lot of time I mean six months before that, but I have lost a lot of hours because of it, but I understand what you say as I go along… I am probably one of the (many) exceptions who have difficulty linking those letters, major minor and want to find something that plays quickly. without having learned it in the correct order ( Edit: yes that`s the problem …the correct order probably :roll_eyes:)
Greetings and thanks

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Don’t know if this is a “secret”, but something I discovered on my own…

Singing solfege while playing scales.

Solfege is using singing a unique syllable for each note in a scale. (For us old dogs, the “Doe, a Deer” song in “The Sound of Music” movie).

Major scale - do, re, mi, fa, so, la, ti, do

Minor pentatonic - la, do, re, mi, so, la (I had to look this up)

Sing along while playing a movable scale pattern. Do it backwards too. Then move the pattern to a different fret and repeat.

Doing this seemed to connect my ear, my voice and my fingers better than anything else I’ve ever done.

I was also able to figure out some of the other patterns by ear, rather than looking them up, which seemed like a better way to learn them.

Try it, and see if you get the same results!

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Hi Michal @Carreta

You’re in module 10 so I guess the chat up above about CAGED and major scale positions is going over your head somewhat.
The open position C major scale is one of those positions and you’ve found part of two other positions by exploring the neck. Good on you!

Have you found something new?
Heck no!
But you’ve found it by yourself and I think things stick better when you find them this way, so keep on exploring!

Are there any more secrets to be found?
You bet!!

Have fun finding them….and don’t stop exploring!

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No, not a secret…

I’m a few weeks in to Chris Liepe’s “Discover Your Voice” course, and this week he introduces this exact exercise (maybe I got it from watching one of his YouTube videos, and forgot? :thinking: )

He also suggests singing the “numeric” scale i.e. "1, 2, 3 … " in addition to “Do, Re, Mi …”. I can see this might really help in recognizing intervals.

Chris is treating this as a singing exercise, but I found it also improved my guitar playing. For example, my ability to figure out riffs and melodies on my guitar improved dramatically after I started doing this.

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