Rake and Bend String

Hi,

I’m learning a song and it’s got a rake and bend at the same time…I just cannot get my head around how to play this. I can do a normal rake e.g. John Mayer ‘Slow dancing in a Burning Room’ but this is different.
As you can see from the screenshot, it’s a rake and bend at the same time… Help… :see_no_evil_monkey:

I suppose there’s more than one way to do this, but I can get this effect by resting the heel of my right hand on the muted strings (strings 3, 4 and 5, say). Then I play strings 2-5 while playing the bend. Generally, you hit the strings vigorously to get the good raking sound.

Actually, I think I’d mute string 1 with the fretting hand, too, so I needn’t worry about hitting it.

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The tabs show a rake into a bend which is still challenging but easier than simultaneously.

Are you saying, you rake down and then do the bend,straight afterwards? Is that the reason for the arrow on the tab?

Yes, it’s a quick rake down and a quick bend. Position your ring finger on the 15th fret, then rake down and pick note while quickly bending up. Probably much easier to demo this than write it. lol

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The arrow denotes the bend, in this case a full tone bend. Could be 1/4 1/2 or 1 1/2 but rake into the note on the 15th fret and then bend. As the target note for the bend is on the B string, the picking hand should muffle the strings above. To stop the e ringing out as you pick and bend the B string mute the e string with the same finger that is fretting the B. But there are options, find your path. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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Been having a practice and I think I get the idea. Basically do like a palm mute with picking hand while fingers on 15 fret B string ready to do bend straight afterwards. A little bit of practice, starting slowly and then work up to the correct speed/tempo and accuracy…
You learn something new everyday :blush:

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:+1: you got it.

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Hi Rachel.
Have you developed the fine art of bending sufficiently to be able to bend using only fingers 2 and 3?
If yes, then you’re good to try this.
Take your index finger off the string that you’ll be bending and unfurl it, extend it flat across the strings behind fingers 2 and 3. This is useful for bends perse - as it can mute unwanted string noise during a bend. It can also be the mute that applies during the rake here.
:slight_smile:

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Hi Richard,

Hi Richard,
Yes I can :grinning_face:
Tried your method, slightly uncomfortable as finger not used to been unfurled/straight on bends but, I’ll keep on trying and see how it progresses.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained…

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Hi @Richard_close2u, I wonder if the alternative method of muting the strings with your picking hand might be the way to go here. It fits in nicely with the general technique of muting all the strings that aren’t actually being played at the moment, where the index finger of the fretting hand mutes the strings higher (in pitch) than the one being played and the heel of the picking hand mutes the strings lower than the one being played. I learned about this for the very first time here:

https://www.justinguitar.com/guitar-lessons/string-muting-techniques-im-134

Most of the players that I have seen doing rake bends use the first finger on the fretting hand to mute the lower strings

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haha! I was just about to write the opposite: that most (all?) of the time I’ve seen a rake, it uses the palm to mute the lower (in pitch) strings.

You got me wondering about this, so I did a quick search on youtube for “how to rake on guitar” and I had a quick look at a handful of the resulting lessons: they all mute the lower strings with the palm. Here’s an example:

It seems to me much more logical and natural to use the palm mute (after all, you should be muting the unplayed strings anyway), but of course each player must find the technique that works best for them.

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Actually after watching the video, and giving it a go, it’s actually quite easy to rake and bend using the palm muting showing by Marty.
I suppose there are many ways of doing it, just whichever feels the most comfortable for you and the situation.

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Dave Gilmour plays a rake and bend in his Another brick in the wall solo

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Yes, I always tend to lean more toward the fretting hand index finger, particularly on these ‘bending rakes’. Gives me more control of the rake, and freedom on the dynamics of the rake with the picking hand.

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Me too, I thought of posting what Richard shared, before reading his answer. I go for index finger extended diagonally across strings above for muting and second finger play note/bends. Comfortably numb solo 1 very initial note played is rake into Gb note+slow long vibrato is good example. This is a rare video where it is visible how DG does it (at 2mins 13sec). :slightly_smiling_face:

https://youtu.be/01sxL5BcEpQ?si=ldc_ADYsj1Zgv0Sr