I started practicing with justinguitar a few days ago. Currently I’m practicing the A and D chord, changing between them, playing along on the lowest bpm with recommended songs. After my practice sessions today I noticed that the area where my thumb connects to my wrist slightly hurts. I’m wondering if this is normal in the beginning or if I’m straining too much?
Hi Antje, Yeah I would say both if we think about it, And as on the picture that is right where our wrist and thumb joint is bending and doing a lot more than we would expect that joint to be doing, so a little rest and a little less take a break and chill and enjoy I have played for years and I still get it if I am practising something and I am going to hard at it especially barre chords or chords we are not used to holding so my advice, nice and slow relax and take it easy massage that joint a bit before and after you play. Take care Cheers Hec
Is your wrist bent whilst playing?
Where is your thumb when playing those 2 chords?
This could just be normal stuff whilst your hand develops or bad positioning.
I’m usually practicing for 15-20 minutes in the morning and then again in the evening (sometimes I add another practice session in the afternoon) so I’m giving my hands plenty of rest, I don’t want to injure myself, after all.
I’m having trouble with the D chord in particular, where my ring finger mutes the high e often. I’m still trying to figure out a position where this doesn’t happen by adjusting my elbow or pushing my wrist forward a little bit so it’s possible my wrist is bent too much. I’ll try to take a picture of my hand/wrist next time I practice. I’m also thinking about getting the guitar into a classical position by resting it on my left leg and having the neck more at an angle to see if this might help with the muting issue.
My thumb is at the back of the neck, not leaning over it.
When playing the D, try sliding your hand further forward without or only slightly bending your wrist. Keep your palm close to the bottom of the neck, but without the neck resting on it. This way your finger will get more room and you will be able to place it more perpendicular to the neck, without muting the e. But be assured, D is one of the more difficult course of the beginner stages, and lots of people struggle with the exact same problem. You’ll get there!
As for your thumb, is your thumb pointing to the top of the neck, or towards the headstock? And is it rather just resting against the neck or are you (maybe unconsciously) pressing against the neck? It might well be that while struggling with the D, you start pressing your thumb against the neck, cramping your muscles. In that case, making sure your hand stays relaxed should help. Easier said than done, I know, but you’ll manage
This was my thought as well. You need just enough pressure from your thumb, so your fingers can fret the strings so they ring properly…but no more than that. If you squeeze too hard for long periods, you can get pain in the place you indicate.
Try and do a little stretching of the fingers, hands and wrists before you do your practice routine. It helps get the blood flowing into the local area, increases the flexability and decreases the the tension and the muscle fibers of the important groups to be used. It is a great habit to get into.
That might be too much practice at this stage especially if you do chord changes A to D to A and so on for 20 minutes straight, which I bet you don’t . Just 2 minutes on chord changes daily is sustainable and then practice other stuff like song, riffs, etc.
You can decrease duration of practice but repeat it often. Like as you said morning, afternoon, evening.
I can’t see any blood
Carry on
I think that’s it. I tried to be mindful while forming the chords, letting my thumb be as relaxed as possible and I didn’t experience any pain. Gonna do that for the next few days and hopefully I won’t be pressing down so much after a while.
Edit: My thumb points up and not towards the headstock, with the pad of my thumb being placed somewhere around the middle of the back of the neck.
Your thumb should point up, so that’s ok. As for the pressure/tension: concentrate on staying relaxed rather then speed for now, and limit your practise time to a couple of minutes (2, maybe 3) per exercise, certainly for those things you’re struggling with. It’s very tempting to keep on trying, but it will enhance te risk of bad execution and resulting injury. You’ll be ok, don’t worry
Make sure that you aren’t pressing down too hard. your thumb will have to provide force in the opposite direction; as much as your fingers try to camp down on the strings.
Many do this; I did (and sometimes do) this as well.
As a safety against buzzing strings, people tend to apply so much force on the strings
Nowand then, test this during practice and try to form clean chords with the LEAST amount of pressure, as if your instrument is a precious but fragile object.
You will buzz; that’s the point. gently apply a bit more force until you don’t buzz anymore. Remember that feeling, try to get -that- feeling while playing. It will extend your guitar stamina and lower the risks of strains and injuries. On top of that, changing chords will require less efort as well.
Hey, im also a beginner (1 week) an have similar problems, and i will try the things that were suggested.
But i also have pain in my left elbow, this is the arm i grab the chords with. Especially with the DMaj to AMaj change.
I can feel the pressure through my arm when im trying to put my ring finger on the C# in the AMaj chord. When i practiced the day before, after waking up in the morning my elbow hurts really bad
Did someone experienced this too?
Im very unsettled, i just want to have fun playing the guitar
Should i try a smaller guitar?
Thank you
Hi @getawav, by your elbow, do you mean the tendons/muscles around your elbow or rather the joint itself? If it’s the tendons and muscles, you’re probably dealing with a tennis elbow (or golf arm, depending on your spot of preference ). In that case:
- Make sure to limit the pressure you put on the strings and neck to the minimum necessary to get a clear sound and consciously relax your hand, arm and shoulder while fretting. Don’t squeeze the neck, use as light a touch as possible.
- Take rest days between practice days.
- Limit your playing time on practice days. Justine recommends 20 min at the beginning. You could even spread those 20 min out over the day but as long as you’re having pain, I would certainly advise against doing multiple practice sessions in one day.
- Regularly stretch the muscles that cause you trouble. You can find specific exercises online. Do this multiple times per day, e.g. stretch for about 10 sec, relax 10 sec, stretch again, etc, 10 reps per session.
- Physiotherapy can help, as can wearing one of those tennis elbow braces.
- If necessary, leave the guitar to the side until the pain diminishes, but keep stretching those muscles. You don’t want to get to the point where it gets really bad and you simply can’t play anymore for a long period of time.
But rest assured, even if it slows you down some now, it will get better. Good luck!
Hi @getawav, don’t be discouraged, many of us had pain when we started out. @LadyOfTheCastle has given you some great guidance. I’d also point you to this website, which offers self-administered techniques for guitarists experiencing wrist and arm pain. It has helped me a lot!
Keep us posted, and if the arm pain persists please do check back in, maybe including some photos.
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