Small hands - any tips for arching over the thin string so they are not muted when playing chords? ps learning guitar has given me a new found respect for guitar players

I started the Beginners Grade 1 course today and immediately wondered how on earth anyone is able to play a chord :grinning:.

As per the course I reached the section where the D and A chords are introduced. I only have small hands and fingers but found having the dexterity to bridge the strings to prevent them from muting / buzzing nigh on impossible. Particularly the E (first string) on the A chord

Are there any tips or exercises that can help with getting the right hand and finger position / shape? I’m less concerned about the tips of the finger pain as I’m sure that will reduce over time.

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I meant the B / 2nd string on the A chord

It always sounds a bit silly to say this, but… Practicing will get you there. At first, just try to get your fingers where they need to be to make it sound “good.” Really try to use the tips of your fingers so that the rest of the finger is as close to perpendicular to the fretboard as you can get it (to minimize contact with other strings).

It will seem impossible to get your fingers to land in that position while changing chords - and initially it will be. But continued practice will get you there. I started just almost a year ago, and I can vouch for this method of persistence.

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Hi Tony, Congratulations on a good start here! One of the most important skills you’ll develop on your guitar journey is patience. And that’s the primary skill you need here! As you progress, your dexterity will increase. Those callouses on your fingers will develop to allow you to fret strings with more precision. It takes time and practice (which takes time…). One thing to check is that you’re not pressing the strings too hard. I’ve been at this for over two years, and I still suffer from this habit! When you form the chord, press only as hard as you need for each string to ring clearly. I’d also recommend reviewing the Chord Perfect Practice notes on the D chord lesson on the website - lots of good tips there. That said, here are a couple of additional things that have helped me along my beginner journey:

  • Take a few minutes to look through the website notes for upcoming lessons. This helped me understand that Justin was going to be addressing most of my burning questions in short order! For example - if you haven’t already seen it, you’ll soon be introduced to one-minute (chord) changes. In Module 4, Justin introduces some stretches. But: don’t be tempted to jump ahead! My experience is that it’s really important, especially through Grade 1, to ease into this adventure.
  • Have a look at the Nitsuj videos (Justin learning to play left-handed). These really helped me set my expectations.
  • You’re already doing one of the best things - keep asking questions here. :smiling_face:
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@grabhorn many thanks for your advice. I’m struggling with positioning my hand and fingers to form the shape required to make the chord. I’ll continue to practice that and hopefully it will get a bit easier.

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Thanks @judi. Yes, found forming the hand and finger shape very difficult. I’ll go over the material that you suggested. I agree that patience and perseverance are probably the most important attributes when learning a completely new skill. Thanks for your advice and support.

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Hi Tony

Take your time, you’re on day one! Follow the lessons diligently and you’ll get there. I’m afraid there are no shortcuts so get in plenty of practise and once you’ve got A,D and E under your fingers you’ll be playing songs. :smiley:
Good luck and stick at it.

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@sairfingers many thanks. Yep, that’s the aim. Patience and practice…

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Hi Tony - if it makes you feel any better (and it might not!) this idea of trying to do things that seem impossible continues with you for as long as you are progressing on the guitar. It’s just that the things you find impossible are more complex as you progress and you learn that they will become possible with careful practice and patience. I doubt anyone who plays guitar now didn’t have a moment in the beginning where moving from A to D seemed like an impossible feat :slight_smile:

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That really is the only solution. the two problems you have, like all beginners do, is that your finger tips are too fleshy and with time you will get callouses on your finger tips and this will go a long way to preventing touching adjacent strings you don’t intend to. Secondly and in relation to the d chord your asking your fingers to move to positions they’ve probably never been in before so getting the ring finger close to the third fret on the b string is quite a stretch at first. Keep at it and over time it will become a doodle. Then onto the next challenge, don’t feel disheartened, we’ve all been there, just embrace the journey.

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@Gregba thanks for the encouragement.

Is that a good thing? :rofl:

Tony, lots of god advice offered, so nothing to add but rest assured it will get better. So just enjoy the ride. :sunglasses:

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Ahhhh Tony,

You’ve got the “Grade 1 Blues”!!!
As Greg @Gregba (and several others) say just above, time & persistence are the answers… imagine if you’d never used silverware before & suddenly you’re seated at a very formal dinner with multitudes of knives, spoons & forks… you wouldn’t know what to do or even have an idea what the various implements are for. Lots of information to absorb & multitasking ahead, but it’s a blast progressing in your musical journey!

Guitar is deceptively simple looking - at least the casual strumming & singing along variety of guitar playing. You’re watching a buddy entertain a few couples in his back yard or living room & you think “How hard could that be?”, right? Now suddenly you’re in Grade 1 of Justin’s lessons & it’s not easy! As Judi @judi suggests, watch Nitsuj attempt to play lefty & it’s really enlightening!!! This man who knows his s**t is struggling to play chords in time, make the correct changes with his fingers & generally do the things that are second nature to him if he’s playing righty!!!

You are literally on the verge of playing your first songs… playing actual MUSIC!!! That’s so cool!!! Except for the finger pain, :crazy_face: I envy you the discoveries you’re about to make… the feeling of achievement when you realize “I’M PLAYING MY FIRST SONG!!!” Good times, man!!

Have loads of fun my friend!!!

Tod

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@CATMAN62 I didn’t realise how difficult it would be to shape my hand and figures just to get the chord shape and the notes to ring out, in isolation without doing anything else. I managed to get a couple of decent D chords this evening but the A was a different story. First string buzz

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Everybody’s hands are different, and there is always a ‘problem’ with them.

Generally the problem is you are not used to playing the guitar!

There are differences in hand size and capability for sure, and that will affect how you play, and what guitars work best, eventually but not today…

Its just practice and learning for now

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I remember those days very well. For me the lesson where Justin shows how to finger the A chord so you have an anchor finger to go from A to D to E was a real breakthrough for me.

Main thing I’d say is take it slow and make it a DAILY thing, every day. Just fifteen minutes a day. When I started I couldn’t play for more than 5 minutes without my fingers hurting to where I had to stop (damn steel strings). So I did that 3 times a day.

It doesn’t take all that long before you start making real recognizable progress and the reward at the end is so very worth it. Being able to play a song on guitar at will without even thinking about it. How cool will that be.

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@TheMadman_tobyjenner thank you

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@tony agree regarding being able to play a song at will. Not able to form a chord without doing anything else is a bit of an eye opener :blush:

@RobDickinson great, thanks. Practice, practice, practice…