Split topic discussing new user's app - admins awaiting further info

Sorry @Mustela I just saw that my post was deleted by the staff. Don’t know why, I was hoping to help you out on this!

Hi @dearjohnmusic - I assume you are involved with software development? I’ve just been watching the demo video and I have a question about the offline ability. This interests me because my music room is away from the house and has no internet. I can see that it installs a browser app on my computer (linux), but where is the data being stored? I can’t seem to add a new song offline, so is it read-only?

The sharing aspect looks useful. I could see this also being used by organisers of community jam sessions to publish chord sheets and song lists.

Hey telemann1!

Yes, that’s me —

My last post got removed so hopefully this reply won’t be :sweat_smile:

Good questions. When you install it as a browser app, your songs are stored locally on your device using IndexedDB (a built-in browser database). So your data lives right on your machine, no cloud needed once it’s synced.

And yes, offline is currently read-only — you can browse, view, transpose, and use play mode, but adding or editing songs needs a connection. Offline editing is on the roadmap but I wanted to get the core right first: making sure your songs are always available on stage or in the music room, even without internet.

Love the jam session idea — sharing a setlist with chord sheets for everyone at a jam would work really well with the sharing feature. That’s a use case I hadn’t thought of!

Thanks for checking it out. Let me know how it works in your music room.ā€

The jam session angle is interesting — park it as a future use case. It’s basically the Band Plan’s share link feature applied to a bigger group.

Let me know what your thoughts are when you start using it!

Best,
DJ

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One of the community rules is: ā€œNo links / ads to commercial initiatives outside the Justinguitar realmā€. So I guess you can understand why your first post was deleted (and your second doesn’t fully comply either). You can review the rules here:

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@dearjohnmusic

It does look like you are promoting your own app via links in the community.
I clicked the link to take a quick look. The landing page asks to sign up and enter my email address.
That is suspicious and does have every appearance of a commercial venture.
If this view is mistaken please explain what your app is and does and what anyone seeking to know more and maybe to use it is expected to do. Divulge email address, personal info, spend money etc?

It is always polite and good practice to ask the admins if it is okay to share any such app or business initiative in advance.

In the meantime I am removing the reference and links.

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Hi Richard, totally fair — I apologise for not checking the community rules before posting. That’s on me.

To be transparent: yes, I’m a musician who built Fretlist. It’s currently free to use during early access. I wasn’t trying to sneak in a sales pitch — someone replied to an older thread about songbook apps and I jumped in because it’s genuinely what I spend my days on. But I should have asked the admins first.

Happy to remove any references myself or keep the conversation to the topic without links. And if there’s a proper way to share it with the community in future, I’d love to know.

Thanks for being upfront about it — I appreciate the way this community is moderated. :folded_hands:

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Totally understand — I should have read the rules first. My apologies! I’m just a musician who also happens to code and got a bit too excited sharing what I’m building. Won’t happen again :folded_hands:

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You can use your phone as a hot spot to get internet anywhere

No I can’t. I don’t have a mobile plan with data.

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Hi John.
Many thanks for such a positive and reasonable response to my moderation yesterday. :slight_smile:

To be transparent: yes, I’m a musician who built Fretlist. It’s currently free to use during early access. I wasn’t trying to sneak in a sales pitch

In that case, good on you for spending time creating something to help musicians and making it freely available. The spirit of paying it forward which we encourage and try to embody in the Community.

— someone replied to an older thread about songbook apps and I jumped in because it’s genuinely what I spend my days on. But I should have asked the admins first.

That is how I became aware of it, I didn’t see a post you reference before the #1 post above here so another admin / moderator must have acted on it.

Happy to remove any references myself or keep the conversation to the topic without links. And if there’s a proper way to share it with the community in future, I’d love to know.

Given that it is a freely available app you’ve developed, not a commercial initiative all is good. I would suggest creating a new topic, with admin approval and blessing, with more detail, explanation and perhaps screenshots so people have a better understanding of what it is and how it works and how it might be of benefit. Do that in this sub-section which includes software.

Thanks for being upfront about it — I appreciate the way this community is moderated. :folded_hands:

We try to be fair and open and appreciate your appreciation.

:slight_smile:

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Thank you Richard — this means a lot. I’ll put together a proper topic with screenshots and an explanation of what Fretlist is and how it works.

Just to be fully transparent: it’s free to use right now during Early Access. My focus is on shaping it into something genuinely useful for musicians before thinking about anything else. That’s just not where I’m at right now.

Really glad to be part of this community. Cheers!

  • DJ
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Fretlist solves that by ā€˜offloading’ your songs when you use your device (laptop, tablet, phone) when you are connected to internet. When you pull up Fretlist at a location without internet, it just loads the latest sync. Songs are stored in IndexDB, a database on your device. When you get back online, it reconnects and re-syncs. Hope this explanation helps!

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For everyone who’s interested, I’ve opened up a new topic in which I introduce Fretlist, as Richard suggested. You can read it here.

Have a great day!