Steve L’s Learning Log

Well, it’s true that it’s hard to focus on many genres at the same time. So, I understand your dilemma between your acoustic and electric guitars.

Wow ! Blackbird, Dust in the Wind. That’s iconic classics for fingerpicking. You have some great achievement on the acoustic ! Last time I had time to work on acoustic fingerstyle was in December. Justin has some nice Christmas songs arrangements. :santa:

With your interest for the blues and your start of grade 4, you will be ready when there will be a next cohort of Blues Immersion. Today, I signed up to the first cohort of the course, so I’ll let you know how it goes.

I may have to pause my rock guitar project for the duration of the course. But I will come back to it after. I won’t give up as I know @SILVIA would be disappointed of me :grinning: :rofl: :rofl:


Yes, I would be disappointed because you’re very good at that stuff! And I do enjoy the rock videos from you and the other guys such as Jk!

:star_struck: aww … I wish you a lot of fun with the Blues Immersion…who wants to play the Blues is so very lucky at the moment as we know Justin has been putting so much effort in the course and since it’s something he definetely loves I believe it’s going to be amazing stuff all the way through!
Let us know how it goes…sure you’ll do great!


@SteveL_G99 Yes, please let us know here how it goes as I would be interested to see feedback. I have this as a goal for me for next year to have completed Grade 3 and be in a position to do Blues Immersion at some point. Would be interested to know how hard you think it would be for a Grade 3 player + some consolidation time to complete the course.

Also not sure how the live classes would work in future years. Will the course be run in full each year with new live sessions for those of us that weren’t ready this year? Perhaps the mods or other teachers (@Richard_close2u) might be able to answer if this has been considered or is the full experience a ‘one off’ just for this year?

@ziggysden Hi Stuart, it was @math07 who was going to take the blues immersion course. I am interested to see how that goes also. Grade 4 has a lot of blues lessons already and I have a wealth of blues specific and artist specific DVD tutorials to look at so I will probably wait to take the blues immersion course later.

As an example of all the blues related lessons on DVD I have collected over the years:

I have some of this available online but I just wanted to feel like I am finally getting some use for all of this stuff I have collected over the years.

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I’ll let you know too Stuart :slight_smile:

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Hi Silvia, I decided not to do the blues immersion course since I am still working on transitioning to intermediate level and more importantly I can’t immerse if I am interested in too many styles of guitar. I am slowly working on the Werner classical course and I continue to be inspired by others playing classical guitar. I mentioned that Guitar Techniques has a column on classical guitar and this month the piece was especially inspiring - J. S. Bach - Sleepers Awake. Perhaps many years from now I can attempt just the intro part since it is considered moderately advanced:

JS Bach Sleepers Awake

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This is very beautiful Steve, thanks for @ me!
I’m happy to read you’re keeping going on the Classical Guitar Method…it doesn’t matter how slow or fast, what counts is that you’re enjoying it! Now…I’m curious: what are you working on the Classical Guitar?

@SILVIA Silvia, I am happy that you enjoyed the link. I am currently practicing the song lessons (Jazz Cat and Au Clair de la lune) on pages 30 - 34 of Werner Classical Guitar Method book 1. Since I have much experience with sight reading in the first position, my focus is on my right hand tone. I have decided that I must allow my fingernails to grow out a little. When I recorded “Morning Has Broken” I plucked the strings with my finger tips and no fingernails. But modern classical guitar tone requires the use of the finger nails. I found the lesson on maintaining the fingernails in the Werner website, outside of the book lessons.

I confess that for reasons of nostalgia, I have also played through the corresponding lessons (notes on the first 3 strings) in my old Solo Guitar book 1 by Frederick Noad. I discovered in Wikipedia that F. Noad had some televised lessons in the 1960s that were released in color in the 1980s. I found a lesson for Greensleeves on YouTube, which has a chord melody version Frederick Noad Greensleeves classical guitar lesson. It is interesting to me to see the lesson, but I like the version in his Solo Guitar book 1 better, since it uses 2 note chords.

There are differences in approaches (for instance, the Noad book emphasizes the rest stroke at first) so I will mostly follow the Werner books. I bought 2 intro books and also the techniques book and the grade 1 and 2 repertoire book. I don’t play classical guitar every day (I do play guitar every day) but every 4th week I focus on classical guitar and play every day. On the other weeks, I play just a few (1 or 2 times) per week. It is not optimal, but I will very slowly make progress. Of course, seeing what I have written, I think I should practice the right hand exercises for 5 minutes every day until I am satisfied with my tone. I have moved my guitar case from the closet to next to my music stand.

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Hi Steve :wave: I’m glad to read you’re progressing well! I think growing a little bit of fingernails is a good idea, I feel comfortable to have them not too long…but I know someone can do without fingernails as well.
Have you checked Justin’s arrangement of Greensleeves? I learnt so much from it! And it sounds pretty sweet on the Classical Guitar too, only you need to adapt a little bit the fretting hand technique. Also Werner has a nice lesson on it. I checked your link but my poor ear is getting confused as that doesn’t sound like the Greensleeves I know :thinking:

@SILVIA Silvia, my apologies. I should have said that you need to skip the first 5:30 (5 and 1/2 minutes) of intro, guitar tuning, and special fingering explanations. Then you will see the melody played while the standard notation is shown on the screen. Then at the 9:30 point in the video, the chord melody version is explained while the standard notation is shown on the screen. It is a very old video from the 1980s, but it is interesting to see someone who studied under Andres Segovia via workshops. According to Wikipedia, Segovia had contact with Francisco Terraga to arrange to take classical guitar lessons, but Terraga died before Segovia could take those lessons. So seeing this video gives a direct link to the origins of classical guitar.

You can have a more direct connection to the masters of classical guitar by looking at a video of A. Segovia playing on the classical guitar:
Andres Segovia - 1975 video

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I love all Tarrega’ s pieces :heart_eyes:
I haven’t formed my own opinion on Segovia though, because in an interview I heard him say things I didn’t like, such as Classical Guitar needing to be saved from the hands of Flamenco players…and…he also used an adjective for them which I can’t remember and it wasn’t nice! Ok…I know he’s among the greatest…:joy: I still ignore too much of Classical Guitar hystory…can you name a masterpiece composed by Segovia? But Tarrega! :heart_eyes::heart_eyes::heart_eyes:

@SILVIA My knowledge of classical guitar history and repertoire is very weak. I probably focused on Segovia because many of the classical guitarists in the US were taught by Segovia or students of Segovia and tend to promote Segovia in the US guitar magazines. I think of Andres Segovia as the father of modern classical guitar technique, since students of the Tarrega school played with the finger tips directly over the sound hole that resulted in a softer sound, while Segovia played with the finger nails with the hand located between the sound hole and the bridge for a louder brighter modern tone. So I guess that because Segovia was not able to become a student of Tarrega, that lead to the modern guitar technique, since Segovia had to teach himself and develop his own technique. Segovia did transcribe a lot of the Bach repertoire for classical guitar, but he mostly had other composers write for him. So I have learned one piece by Tarrega, but none by Segovia, but Segovia did have a large influence on classical guitar in the 20th century.

I have practiced the Greensleeves chord melody song in the grade 3 lessons, but I had a problem with a muted or dead string when the chord shape changed from an F to an Fm chord. I will practice on this more this year as I work on consolidating grade 3 skills while learning new things in grade 4.

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