The F Chord Lesson on JustinGuitar

Cheers Joshua, will give it a go

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Wow thank you! I am glad it worked for you.

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Hhhmmm…

Thought I would have a look at module 9.

Getting a few F’s ringing on 5 strings.

With the joint in first finger on the corner of the fretboard on high E, I can get the B and high E ringing, but my finger is at an angle such that the tip goes accross the fret for the low E, hence muting that.
So only one of the E strings rings… :neutral_face:

Maybe the B string is falling under one of your knuckles. Things to try:

  • re-position your index finger slightly so the string is under a fleshier part of the finger

  • roll the finger more on it’s side, and curve it

  • (last resort) focus on pressing index finger down harder over B string - without increasing pressure and tension in rest of the hand!

Thank you so much for the tip. It seems to be the right one for me. I’m now getting the B to ring out with the other strings quite nicely! Well most of the time now anyway.
Cheers :slight_smile:

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I have read many posts and the trouble everyone seems to have starting out. I can honestly say I hate this chord. I have tried and tried to be consistent. I have tried the tips but my biggest challenge has been muscle memory. 75% of the time when doing it slowly I can get my fingers in the correct position. However, trying to concentrate on the index finger position makes my ring and little finger quiver and I slip off the High E and A strings. Practice make permanent but I’m starting to fear I will never get this and must resort to Fmaj7 as the alternative. I won’t give up but very, very frustrating. Thanks for letting me vent. Enjoy all the posts. Stay strong.

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Hey, hang in there, I remember the days of battling the dreaded F chord very well. I’m so glad I stuck with it. For me, it took a number of months before it started to sound ok.

I will not give up. I’m determined to learn this chord before I hit 69 in November. Hopefully it won’t take that long. When I do, I will shout it to the high heavens. Thanks for the encouragement Tony.

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It’s a great one to have in your bag of tricks, a gateway chord to so much more barre chord goodness.

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I learned the F chord over a year ago, and it’s still my most challenging chord grip. I use the F/C instead of the mini-F because I think it sounds the best of all the variations. I’m still playing around with my index finger position to get the e and B strings ringing as clear as possible. Lately, I’ve been using my index finger at more of a 45-degree angle and using the area between the tip and pad to fret both e and B strings. I’m on Level 3, and I still do one-minute-changes with the F at every practice. :scream:

I can actually fret the F barre chord cleaner than any of the ā€œopen-positionā€ F variants LOL!

That being said, even though it’s the one chord that I’m most likely to not get perfect, I have gotten MUCH better at it with the combination of one-minute-changes and practicing songs and chord progressions with the F in them.

Luckily, were learning guitar, not racing LOL!

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It is a struggle. I have been working pretty hard on it for ages it seems. I can get it ā€œconsistently some of the timeā€ :rofl: now.
The bigger problem is that it is a bit slow on the draw.

To get a head start, I looked ahead and have made a few preliminary tries at the two fingered A barre Justin teaches. That one will require major surgery, I think. :roll_eyes:

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It’s going slow for me. I could almost immediately finger the chord and get all the strings to ring out but changing to it is torturous. But I decided to do a One Minute Change exercise to see how I was going. 17 changes from D to F in a minute. Now I have a baseline and I can gauge my progress against.

I think measuring your progress is important. Some of it is slow and barely noticeable but it happens. If nothing else, think back to how hard something was when you started and how well you can do it now. When you don’t think you’re progressing, it helps to remind you that you are even if you can’t see it from day to day.

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Been on, the Fxxxx Chord for about two week. Working hardly on it I can get all the string to ring EXCEPT the B :frowning:

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Yeah, the A shape is definitely more demanding but not impossible. I tried it for the first time probably a year ago, been tinkering with it on and off and by now it’s much easier, though not always perfect.

I’ve got a tendency to bend my little finger behind the neck so as to provide more pressure with my ring finger. It may be a bad habit, but then it’s a useful bad habit.

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In the lesson Justin says that those with an electric as well as an acoustic guitar should practice the F chord on both, to work on strength as well as technique. I don’t have an electric guitar, but I’ve found that tuning all the strings down half a step on my acoustic achieves a similar effect, as it lowers string tension. I just thought I’d share.

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Welcome to the community Pi. (Domen)
The Barre F chord is a movable chord so instead of tuning down you can move it up to the 5th fret. This would be an A barre chord. When that become easy move to the 3rd fret, that’s a G barre chord then down to the first fret, F chord.
Save re-tuning every time you want to play in standard tuning and you learn 2 other chords at the same time

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After a month or so I can get all the strings ringing sometimes…

Either the high E or B are not sounding and if they are, then the low E gets muted… :frowning:

The mini F is a complete no go.

I can fret it up the fretboard, third fret for a G or fifth for an A better. The A shape is easier…

Though forty years ago I could do both and play 12 bar blues using pinky finger to alternate playing a higher note as I strummed.

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Eh, I wouldn’t fret much. I learnt to do the F chord only within a couple of months period with like 10 or less minutes of practice, i.e., for the F chord all respective strings to ring out each time I play it. Take another month for the chord changes to reach near 60 changes per minute. And sometimes it still sounds sloppy, cause my index finger tends to move somewhat. Meanwhile, while playing songs, I substituted the barre chord with its open-chord variations. I mean, no one says you can’t. I’m now playing the acoustic version of ā€œOver the Hills and Far Awayā€ by Nightwish, and there is a Bm barre chord in Pre-chorus. I ain’t doing the barre chord yet, I’m just doing its open-chord equivalent. Shrugs

I think, I’d be worried only, if within a year or more you can’t do barre chords.

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This video got me to focus on my wrist. Justin mentioned something in the video about not having a bent wrist. So how much is to bent and what injuries can you get from it as I noticed I sometimes bend very much.

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Because the F chord is movable, I found it much easier to practice the shape higher on the neck (between frets 3-7) and then move down to that first position (some songs I would swap the typical ā€˜big’ G chord for a Barre over that position just to practice the transition). The higher position requires less stretching and can also take some guitar setup issues out of the equation; it makes it easier to focus on technique in a relaxed position.

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