Thinking about playing or automode? - Thoughts

Hello there,

I am back here with another ā€œmindā€ question and its simply about how to think about what I am doing on guitar while playing something. And yes… I am overthinking it again. :smiley:

I got few tracks in my pocket that I can play without thinking about finger picking and chord changes. Hands are doing it automatically… I dont even know names of some chord, my fingers just go for that, because I got that in memory.
Is it good to play like this? Is it sustainable?
The ā€œsongā€ I am talking about is below. When I pick guitar every day this is first what I play… without focus. Sometimes I make mistakes of course, but maybe in… first run? But overall I dont have to think about chords, finger pick, flick of…
I just wonder if I am not making bad habit with this playing, because I dont ā€œunderstandā€ or dont know what I am doing but I am doing it on auto and it works. Of course I was slowly learning this by tabs, but I can remember it now.

I would like to tell also when I finish this one I can jump to another fingerstyle pattern with different chords and its working too… but I feel like I go just automode and I dont have to put much effort. Its strange to describe it.
I am Grade 2 Module 12 and thinking like this still follows me. Because when I see something for first time I tell myself I cant play it and its not possible. After some time I can play it and it feels like ā€œnot enoughā€ for me anymore. :smiley: Head is really bad enemy.

How do you THINK in your head while playing something you know?

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Ultimately the end goal for any song is essentially to be able to play it without thinking I’d say so it’s not necessarily a bad thing. Equally there’s plenty of good musicians who know very little theory and there’s the adage of it sounds good then it is good.

When I’m playing I need to be thinking about playing or that’s when I lose my place in a song and miss a chord change. I’m not necessarily thinking about where my fingers need to go anymore but always listening for bum notes and if I’m keeping good time with the backing track.

The thing about mistakes is that we all make them but you should be aware of them in case you’re making the same mistake because it will become habit.

For me playing guitar is the escape. It’s when I’m not thinking about work or things around the house that need doing. If I give my playing my entire focus then afterwards whatever was on my mind has gone. If I don’t give my guitar my focus then I play badly and that’s an extra thing on my mind! I do some meditation and maybe that helps, I’m not sure. In a nutshell, meditation is about focusing on something, getting distracted, realising you’re distracted and returning to the focus again and again. To be clear I’m not trying to push meditation onto anyone, just observing the parallel between it and my guitar practice

Not sure if any of that answers the question but it’s how my practice goes.

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@mattswain thanks for your reply. Its really hard to answer on my thoughts, so I think your answer is good.

Its like I am not ignoring music or instrument… I am really enjoying the music which goes from guitar while I am playing this and because its so automaticall I can really slow it down or make faster… and feel it different. But playing it more like with feel than thinking about technics at all…
I can see why its good but still can see why it is not.

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This is when music sounds best for the listener and the performer. Playing with feeling is music.

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Michal

Playing songs from memory is great however you must be careful and not play by routine. There is a risk that you are not listening to what you’re playing. However well you know any piece you, as much as any audience if not more, must listen carefully to your every performance; hear the light and shade, the staccato and legato, the loud the quiet. If you’re unaware of what you’re playing you’ll miss opportunities for variations and improvements that add colour to performances. If yhou’re not listening it’s probably not worth anyone else’s attention.

Brian

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In my coaching sessions, I try to find ways fo students to achieve that.
Being able to do that, you free up ā€œbrain powerā€ to focus on singing, decorations, etc.
Many have a long struggle trying to achieve ā€œauto-modeā€.

The pitfall is to remain there and consider it a ā€˜done deal’.
Having the auto pilot part is great but don’t forget to develop it furher, add embellishments, passing notes, etc. Build in layers on your foundation. :wink:

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@beejay56 You got point and I hope I am not in stat state that ā€œI dont really knowā€ stucked in routine. Because if I play only routine I would still play D to A chord in first grade… I think I just enjoy something new that I learned few days without taking anything that new, because I dont feel that progress here. But yesterday I started new fingerstyle pattern by Marco Cirillo and I almost got it in my fingers, now I need to practice but I understand concept and fingers are doing what they should. So I got still ā€œwillā€ to learn more and somehow it works.
I am just fighting my head again and again because my learning style is a little bit ā€œpunkā€. I cant stay too long by strict routine, because I just dont wanna do it like that. It works, somehow.
I overcame rut that I had few months ago, but sometimes I got back thinking like this topic - not thinking about guitar quiting at all. I cant imagine I would go home and guitar wont be there ready to be picked by me. :smiley:

@LievenDV Thank you Lieven. I dont know how to describe it… but maybe there is difference between what you really want in your head. I dont focus to catch this automode at all. It just happen by itself. Maybe if I think about that I would not be able to achieve that. :smiley:
I was little bit lost about who to follow in fingerstyle and now I think I found my way - its Paul Davids and Marco Cirillo and even I am in the beginning now I can see how different they play and I know I will try to take best of both of them. :slight_smile:

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Absolutely not , Michal … you are moving foward by thinking about your playing performance, having learned the song.

Good points above to think about …

Keep having fun … :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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Great post there, I am looking forward to see other comments as well.
I am able to achieve a somewhat auto-mode with songs I know how to play and sing, but sure I always listen and immidiately notice when I make a mistake. But I am not able to play from memory, saddly I still need my chord book for most songs. Lyrics I remember and strumming patern also but sometimes I just add different strumm here and there based on current feeling.
But just yesterday I was doing a song I know and played/sing for a while… but this time I was really focusing on strumming dynamics and going for the ā€œlouderā€ downstrumm on beat 2 and 4, and that wasn’t easy at all. In fact I was struggling quite a lot altough the song itself was on auto-mode since at least few months. It kind of surprised me, I tought it would be easier :slight_smile:

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@bk2 I think its really important to go on even when you make buzz or hit different string. Just naturally solve it with ā€œgo onā€ without breaking pattern and playing under your hand. I know its much easier to write it than do so in real playing…
I think changing pattern how you feel or like is great part of playing any music… because you can make it your own interpretation and not 100% copy. It really depends what is your goal.

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