Thinking about playing or automode? - Thoughts

Hello there,

I am back here with another ā€œmindā€ question and its simply about how to think about what I am doing on guitar while playing something. And yesā€¦ I am overthinking it again. :smiley:

I got few tracks in my pocket that I can play without thinking about finger picking and chord changes. Hands are doing it automaticallyā€¦ I dont even know names of some chord, my fingers just go for that, because I got that in memory.
Is it good to play like this? Is it sustainable?
The ā€œsongā€ I am talking about is below. When I pick guitar every day this is first what I playā€¦ without focus. Sometimes I make mistakes of course, but maybe inā€¦ first run? But overall I dont have to think about chords, finger pick, flick ofā€¦
I just wonder if I am not making bad habit with this playing, because I dont ā€œunderstandā€ or dont know what I am doing but I am doing it on auto and it works. Of course I was slowly learning this by tabs, but I can remember it now.

I would like to tell also when I finish this one I can jump to another fingerstyle pattern with different chords and its working tooā€¦ but I feel like I go just automode and I dont have to put much effort. Its strange to describe it.
I am Grade 2 Module 12 and thinking like this still follows me. Because when I see something for first time I tell myself I cant play it and its not possible. After some time I can play it and it feels like ā€œnot enoughā€ for me anymore. :smiley: Head is really bad enemy.

How do you THINK in your head while playing something you know?

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Ultimately the end goal for any song is essentially to be able to play it without thinking Iā€™d say so itā€™s not necessarily a bad thing. Equally thereā€™s plenty of good musicians who know very little theory and thereā€™s the adage of it sounds good then it is good.

When Iā€™m playing I need to be thinking about playing or thatā€™s when I lose my place in a song and miss a chord change. Iā€™m not necessarily thinking about where my fingers need to go anymore but always listening for bum notes and if Iā€™m keeping good time with the backing track.

The thing about mistakes is that we all make them but you should be aware of them in case youā€™re making the same mistake because it will become habit.

For me playing guitar is the escape. Itā€™s when Iā€™m not thinking about work or things around the house that need doing. If I give my playing my entire focus then afterwards whatever was on my mind has gone. If I donā€™t give my guitar my focus then I play badly and thatā€™s an extra thing on my mind! I do some meditation and maybe that helps, Iā€™m not sure. In a nutshell, meditation is about focusing on something, getting distracted, realising youā€™re distracted and returning to the focus again and again. To be clear Iā€™m not trying to push meditation onto anyone, just observing the parallel between it and my guitar practice

Not sure if any of that answers the question but itā€™s how my practice goes.

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@mattswain thanks for your reply. Its really hard to answer on my thoughts, so I think your answer is good.

Its like I am not ignoring music or instrumentā€¦ I am really enjoying the music which goes from guitar while I am playing this and because its so automaticall I can really slow it down or make fasterā€¦ and feel it different. But playing it more like with feel than thinking about technics at allā€¦
I can see why its good but still can see why it is not.

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This is when music sounds best for the listener and the performer. Playing with feeling is music.

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Michal

Playing songs from memory is great however you must be careful and not play by routine. There is a risk that you are not listening to what youā€™re playing. However well you know any piece you, as much as any audience if not more, must listen carefully to your every performance; hear the light and shade, the staccato and legato, the loud the quiet. If youā€™re unaware of what youā€™re playing youā€™ll miss opportunities for variations and improvements that add colour to performances. If yhouā€™re not listening itā€™s probably not worth anyone elseā€™s attention.

Brian

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In my coaching sessions, I try to find ways fo students to achieve that.
Being able to do that, you free up ā€œbrain powerā€ to focus on singing, decorations, etc.
Many have a long struggle trying to achieve ā€œauto-modeā€.

The pitfall is to remain there and consider it a ā€˜done dealā€™.
Having the auto pilot part is great but donā€™t forget to develop it furher, add embellishments, passing notes, etc. Build in layers on your foundation. :wink:

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@beejay56 You got point and I hope I am not in stat state that ā€œI dont really knowā€ stucked in routine. Because if I play only routine I would still play D to A chord in first gradeā€¦ I think I just enjoy something new that I learned few days without taking anything that new, because I dont feel that progress here. But yesterday I started new fingerstyle pattern by Marco Cirillo and I almost got it in my fingers, now I need to practice but I understand concept and fingers are doing what they should. So I got still ā€œwillā€ to learn more and somehow it works.
I am just fighting my head again and again because my learning style is a little bit ā€œpunkā€. I cant stay too long by strict routine, because I just dont wanna do it like that. It works, somehow.
I overcame rut that I had few months ago, but sometimes I got back thinking like this topic - not thinking about guitar quiting at all. I cant imagine I would go home and guitar wont be there ready to be picked by me. :smiley:

@LievenDV Thank you Lieven. I dont know how to describe itā€¦ but maybe there is difference between what you really want in your head. I dont focus to catch this automode at all. It just happen by itself. Maybe if I think about that I would not be able to achieve that. :smiley:
I was little bit lost about who to follow in fingerstyle and now I think I found my way - its Paul Davids and Marco Cirillo and even I am in the beginning now I can see how different they play and I know I will try to take best of both of them. :slight_smile:

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Absolutely not , Michal ā€¦ you are moving foward by thinking about your playing performance, having learned the song.

Good points above to think about ā€¦

Keep having fun ā€¦ :sunglasses:

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Great post there, I am looking forward to see other comments as well.
I am able to achieve a somewhat auto-mode with songs I know how to play and sing, but sure I always listen and immidiately notice when I make a mistake. But I am not able to play from memory, saddly I still need my chord book for most songs. Lyrics I remember and strumming patern also but sometimes I just add different strumm here and there based on current feeling.
But just yesterday I was doing a song I know and played/sing for a whileā€¦ but this time I was really focusing on strumming dynamics and going for the ā€œlouderā€ downstrumm on beat 2 and 4, and that wasnā€™t easy at all. In fact I was struggling quite a lot altough the song itself was on auto-mode since at least few months. It kind of surprised me, I tought it would be easier :slight_smile:

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@bk2 I think its really important to go on even when you make buzz or hit different string. Just naturally solve it with ā€œgo onā€ without breaking pattern and playing under your hand. I know its much easier to write it than do so in real playingā€¦
I think changing pattern how you feel or like is great part of playing any musicā€¦ because you can make it your own interpretation and not 100% copy. It really depends what is your goal.

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