Any gardeners who are finger (guitar) pickers out there?

This is more of an observation with faint hope of advice:

Been experimenting with picking rather than strumming, and liking the results.
My fretting hand I keep my nails down to the minimum
My right hand I’ve been letting the nails grow and shaping them for picking.

Gardening season is in full swing, and my picking hand, being my dominant hand, I quickly
A) packed the nails with dirt,
 then
B) tore and broke the nails.

Is this an A or B state of affairs?
   A. ā€œSorry but you’re gonna have to wear gloves in the garden if you want to preserve your string pickin’ fingernails!ā€ (I haven’t yet developed weeding skills with gloves on)
   B. ā€œYou can pick the string beans, but not your guitar stringsā€

For now, I’m down to but one nail left, resulting in ā€œfleshyā€ picking by the other fingers
— but then the strings plucked by nail sound out differently, so I think that nail’s fate is sealed too.

Do you have a solution/work around that works for you?

Maybe using gloves when gardening can help :slight_smile:

they sell some nice gardening gloves nowadays , very comfy

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Yes! Learn to play without nails.

Nails are not necessary. Sure, they brighten the sound and increase volume a little, but good technique will overcome any meaningful difference.

I play steel and nylon with the flesh of my fingers as do many people and it works fine. I do keep my right picking hand thumbnail a little long, though.

It takes a few weeks of adjustment, but totally worth it. I spent more time on nail maintenance and waiting for nails to grow back than I did playing guitar. Ant I am not a gardener nor do I particularly abuse nails.

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Buy some gardening gloves. Simples !

I’ve been stacking logs for about 4 hours today and my picking nails are all intact.
And my callouses have had a good work out as well.

I don’t think you necessarily need nails for finger style. I enjoy finger style and keep all my nails short. I may not get the volume I would with nails but it is loud enough, even for an open mic. If you really want the loudness you could try finger picks.

I pull my fingernails off with my teeth… (I know :roll_eyes:)
Soil is good for the soul (and strings :wink:).
My son says the ā€˜funk is in the gunk’ :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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I think I like to finger pick my guitar strings. At least half the time I don’t use a guitar pick.
I’m also the garden weed puller at my house. Not a big garden though, only 258 sq ft. But it still gets a gob of weeds.

Myself, I just cut all my nails off to where there’s no white showing. Both hands. I use the fleshy part of my picking fingers to pick with. I also go back and forth with a strum here or there. For the strum I use the nail side of my freshly cut off finger nails. This yields a chiming type tone. Much different than when using the flesh to pick with.
I try to embrace the difference and use it to my advantage as to the tones I’m wanting to make.

ymmv

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Take a look at this LL Rogers and Gordons garden log .
(There is a lot more about it, but that is a waste of time and would be better spent on the guitar :roll_eyes:)
At the beginning of the season there a lot of work with the soil etc, now it’s just pruning and watering and all too often that happens with a guitar around the neck :see_no_evil_monkey:… gardening is done with your bare hands for the best feeling :grinning_face_with_big_eyes:… just learn to play with short nails :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:… without nails I find what I read here a bit macabre :grimacing:

Greetings

@brianlarsen ooo my god that looks like the inside of my toaster man, are you sure that is your guitar Brian Haha

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I play fingerstyle quite a bit and keep my nails fairly short. I then have the option of the sound of flesh or nail on string. I also think the nails sound better if short than long.

I opt for gardening gloves as I love gardening.But I’m new to playing fingerstyle so I didn’t try that much.

Garden or no garden - fingerpicking doesn’t need nails. I fingerpick a lot and do it all without nails, just flesh, gives a warmer sound and more variety while playing with nail gives the nail sound always, but only the nail sound. If the white gets longer than 1 mm it drives me crazy.

+1 on the fleshy fingerpicking here…

I actually prefer the way it sounds without the brightness nails create. Also, I have a couple of sets of finger picks… they’re usable but again, too bright to my ears.

Tod

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The general consensus I’m picking up (and embracing) is:

-                       Keep the nails short!

As noted by @roger_holland short is where it’s at.

It also facilitates fingernail cleaning (those corners are still a bit challenging though when packed with clay )
Personally, I like to be exposed to dirt: I’m of the opinion that it helps my skin biome, and I do find it easier pull weeds with fingers ungloved

Thank you all for pitching in–much appreciated

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.      for you vegetable gardening nerds:

After 50+ years of gardening different ways, I’m moving toward a new style of gardening where each year I lay down cardboard, and cover it with a couple+ inches of wood chips (free from the tree trimmers). Been doing it for three years now in a couple hundred square foot section of the garden–love the result: thick black loam, few weeds, less watering, and done in the fall after harvest and lugging wheelbarrow loads of chips is a welcome workout. It suppresses most all of the weeds, and those that do make it through, the loam is so light (versus my normal heavy clay soil) they pull out easily, and most/all of their roots too. Plus, no tilling: just push the chips back in a row in the spring, plant, after the seedlings get established I push the chips back in. I don’t have enough chips/cardboard to do all 1000sqft, but where I am able to do it it works great for me it

  • increases the tilth with rich humous
    ** the mycorrhizae are going nuts–I see fungal filaments everywhere
    ** earth worms galore
  • eliminates soil splash transmitting soil pathogens to the foliage
  • suppresses most all weeds (and make it easier to pull those persistent weeds)
  • eliminates early summer tilling/turning over the soil
  • preserves moisture when rains are slight
  • offloads the labor of weeding in the hot summer (multiple days), to one heavy duty day in the cool fall

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100% agree on the no-tilling the veg patch. I’ve dug over my plot exactly once in my life 10 years ago and my back decided that is just nuts. I am now collecting garden waste from my neighbours (grass clippings, hedge cuttings and all the leaves in autumn) and compost it all up and spread when ready. Soil is chocolate cake.

Yes your fretting hand should be very short on nails. I cut mine just past the whites exposing my fleshy finger tips which callous up. And that’s good! Ask Nancy Wilson!
I am not a finger picker stylist. I strum but add arpeggio to enhance.

Now for your other hand…James Taylor grows his nails long for getting at just the right notes. Singular plucks!

I say do as best as you are.
I say send me some gardening knowledge; I need that. All about it and more if you’d like.
Love _R

Not a finger picker as such, but I remember telling my wife some time ago, I would no longer be available to cut the Sunday roast: to avoid any finger ā€˜mishaps’ with the blade.

"Anyone would think you were a surgeon, or something! ", she bit back.

ā€œSurgeon? Hmph! I, madam, am a guitarist!ā€
:smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

Cheers, Shane

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Wow, lot’s of fingerpickers here prefer the no-nails sound. I’m the opposite, after years of playing without nails, I grew my right hand (except the pinky) nails out a bit to add volume to my fingerpicking.

I play almost exclusively acoustic blues and folk (and by ā€œfolkā€, I mean John Hurt and Elizabeth Cotten, not James Taylor and Leonard Cohen). Most of the traditional players of this genre use fingerpicks or long nails and to me, it just feels right. If I don’t have any nails, everything I play sounds like ā€œYesterdayā€, lol.

I don’t love doing the nail maintenance, but to be honest it only takes about 10 minutes, once a week. I don’t garden, so that’s not an issue for me.

Uhh that was where the topic starts with ā€œany gardenersā€ …for the not gardenless (or I don’t do balcony flower box crafters either) there are several topics full of with or without nails… :blush:

I would like to add for fun that if you are going to do coarse/brutal pruning work or chimney tiles and so on… of course wear gloves, protect those precious fingers for the best hobby there is… but feel the earth with your fingers for the rest :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Greetings :sunflower: :cherry_blossom: :sun:

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You can pick your friends,
and you can pick your nose…
But you can’t pick your friend’s nose :wink:

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