Hey so I came up with this short idea about a year ago and recorded it. It’s just an intro idea for now that I’d like to develop into a full song (‘Carbide’), eventually…but most importantly just posting it here so you can ‘musically’ get to know a bit about me and also if you have any feedback on what was good and what could be done better, let me know!
I’m playing a Glarry GST through a Fender Mustang 1 so bear with me To good vibes, good health, and good music.
Thats hella rad. Really sounds sick AF Damian!
That sounds fully like a totally solid metal riff to me, even just doubling up the length on the beginning base notes while adding a vocal coming in all low then hammering in with the distorted part in the verse. Then you got a solid intro and verse riff and even more. Dont start changing it too much. You are super close right?
Follow the song structure form, change up the form, drop some of the stuff, in the song layout. @LievenDV has some good club sessions about song structure.
You may already have seen them. I can’t rememeber which number it its but they are really good.
Amyway, I really liked that, super heavy, I can totally hear putting something over the top (2nd guitar with melodic screaming riff, sick percussion). Some killer vocals with a Gnar story.
Great work. Glad you shared with us. Please keep us updated.
Haha thanks for the feedback I’ll say songwriting is definitely a weak point for me in terms of structuring - it isn’t something I’ve actively practiced much at all; I tend to have these spontaneous ideas, go to record them and just shelf them for ‘later’. I have yet to sit in on a club session so I’ll be doing that as much as my work schedule allows going forward; definitely will keep an eye out for Lieven’s sessions, thanks for that.
And I haven’t added any other parts to it since I recorded so it’s still a baby… and yeah, vocals would be nice, I just have to learn to sing
That’s a real good riff for the basis of a HM song, it reminds me of good old early Black Sabbath, Toni Iommi guitar, with a touch Metallica. You just need to dive deep and right some dark lyrics and come up with a catchy complintary lead line.
Just as @AJSki2fly said, I do think it sounds kind of like black sabbath. Your songwriting isn’t bad. Your definitely better than me which I’ve never learned it . I really did enjoy the song. Well done. Thanks for sharing with us.
Congratulations on your first recording share @Harmonik
That riff is BIG and HEAVY.
As you say, it is in its infancy. But it screams like a wolf.
In terms of development, a couple os simple steps could help.
Decide if what you play here is one complete riff in its entirety. Or is it two or more smaller parts put together.
Identify the smallest component and call it [A]. Other parts could be [B] and [C] etc.
By parts I mean chunks that may only be one or two bars in length.
Then figure a structure, a sequence. Write it down so you have something fixed to follow.
Figure out a tempo and play to a simple drum track.
Even those simple steps could help it take shape and sound better yet.
To me, this is a verse and some variation on it, so it could work as the combination of an
intro ans a verse.
Then it needs some contrast, it needs to jump to a a different starting chord to form a new block,
The simplest form towards a “song” would be
intro
verse (with vocal, but same chord progression)
chorus
verse
Optional: bridge
Chorus
Chorus
Try, for starters, to make sections of equal length and similar structure to guide your listener.
Your riff strongly gravitates around one chord, starting from it, returnign to it.
That is clearly your “key”
Typically; I would go for a chord that is either 4 steps away or that is already in my verse but has a big (or biggest) distance to the key
example if the song is in E (or E minor) I would try jumping to A (or Am) or at least something ‘as far away’ and build a chorus from there
Typically I would try to re-use 3 chords from the verse but in a different order and experiment with adding or replacing one chord with one we didnt hear yet.
It’s ok to re-use the verse chords in a different order, the different order dreates a different dynamic, breakign your droning pattern.
If you solely re-use, you can add a bridge with one or two “new” chords.
Research the topic “diatonic chords” to learn why some chords go good together because they are part of one key.
More about song structure in the Live club about making songs your own. (it was only my seocnd session so I wasn’t that fluent yet :D)
Keep on reading, as user @RatkoJ made a clean pdf of something he saw me do in the session; make a song structure sheet.
Later in the thread I post my example but he has a link with an empty PDF you can use.
It use a grid for the basic chord structure, because many songs have very evenly spaced measured and lines, composed of equal length blocks. You are writing riff based here so you’ll probably use that differently but the idea that you have a song of evenly spaced blocks will make it easier for the listener to follow.