can I ask you for showing yourself? You the one on fingerstyle path with your learning log?
I know I should not compare myself to other musiciansā¦ but I more like to see āwhereā I am and where it leads me, than compare.
I had many attempts on structured learning, but it does not work for me. I am just doing what I want and somehowā¦ it works. I just want to see others journey.
Right now I am still bumping between genres and techniques, because I need some foundationā¦ it seems connected to me, every genre and technique.
But in the end it means learn the piece with 20-40 seconds length. Not having anything really longā¦ but I cant find something that long I really wanna learn. If it makes sense. I know I had topic about that months agoā¦
I play fingerstyle ā¦ I have an LL ā¦ with videos of a number of fingerstyle songs ā¦, but I wouldnāt call it a fingerstyle LL ā¦
but if you want to waste time searching in that uh thing, be my guest (better just click on YouTube of people you see doing this and watch their videos archive (you can also see the date), most of them donāt have that many ā¦
I am now practicing my fingerstyle song almost every week again and I will probably post one under an old topic, the biggest progress is that most of it is now played much more relaxed without me looking intently at my hands without blinking my eyes.
This is a favorite of mine Yesterday together with"" Is There Anybody Out There?"
and happy birthdayā¦ I mean all of Justinās blues arrangements
Iāve done a lot of fingerstyle, itās my preferred style of playing. Do a mixture these days as fingerstyle just canāt be heard it a large jam session. Probably 2/3rd to 3/4 of what I do is fingerstyle. There are some examples of it on my learning log.
@tony Thanks Tony, I am gonna check that.
Yesterday I made new video of playing new pieceā¦ it has around 1 minute but somehow it satisfied meā¦ like doing recording of myself is like some invisible milestone.
I hope one day all this little pieces will click together and make me free to do anything on fretboard.
@tony@roger_holland Thank you guys for showing up. Made cup of tea and went through your stories. I can see we all go through something and learning is not rocket speed.
I would like to tell you you made really big journey progress and I am happy for that.
100% oke with it ,Although I am also happy that learning is getting a little faster
the feeling of coming back to an earlier piece of music after weeks or even months and almost automatically playing it so much better or completely well is one of the nicest moments
Somewhere on this YouTube forum you can hear a number of great artists who also say this: āSoon/later/what if everyone sees that Iām just doing a simple trickā ā¦ or something like that,
well I canāt wait to achieve that feeling, because it just says how easy it is after all those years of practice I think
Have fun
Ps: Yesterday after tapping you āis there anybody out thereā I recorded it on my phone, but I was still a bit disappointed at the difference with a long time ago when I recorded this without video,But my standard level (1 take or playing for someone in the room) is much more than 4 x as good, but anā¦ important to meā¦ 100% spontaneously error-free session is apparently not yet possibleā¦
Good luck finding any videos of āactualā guitar playing on Rogierās LL. Itās mainly dedicated to his beautiful garden, flowers, wildlife, random thoughts and chats with @sairfingers and teasing meā¦
Iām a strictly strum ānā sing man, and avoid the plucking of individual strings, although this simplest of forrays into that forest still gives me great pleasure
(Included partly to irritate the Dutchman for repeated posting and self-promotion )
Hi Michal! another Fingerstyle lover and player here! Also not limited to genres, though in the last few years Iāve been listening to more Classical Music than I had in all my life. Classical Guitar makes the fingerpicking easier because the neck is wider and thereās more space for the fingers; also some structured work on Classical Guitar gives me some solid foundation which helps me to learn to express myself on the instrument. I love acoustic fingerstyle too and in due time I want to develop that tooā¦as I love strumming, fingers strumming comes easierā¦and I have fun with the Uke too!
I think itās quite a relatable feeling, especially at the beginning, when we feel unconfident at playing and we feel we canāt master itā¦I feel Iām developing from that and I can affirm āIām able to play the guitarā. Recording myself and watching myself playing helped with that.
I think that playing longer pieces is a skill itself that one builds over timeā¦itās not easy, there is a lot of stuff going onā¦my approach has been skill-oriented more than ānailing the pieceā, but again here Iām growing, more aiming at learning pieces and finding a better balance.
@Silvia80 Thank you very much for your input.
Views like this make me calm about what I am doing. Today I shared my new fingerstyle piece and somehow it refreshed my mind.
I am getting ready to hit something classical in this yearā¦ I am gonna learn from Marco Cirillo mainly in Classical way.
Werenāt you working on Warm and Windy? Thatās pretty long. And it has that great structure, where there is a basic part (8 bars, 12 bars?) that repeats several times, but each time itās followed by a new section (there are 3 of these).
So, you learn the repeating part, which is maybe 20 seconds. You play it twice and you have a 40 second piece of music. You play that happily for a few weeks.
Then you learn the following section. Now you can play part 1 twice, part 2 and part 1 again. Now youāre at 80 seconds of music and itās starting to feel like a full piece. Few more weeks of happy playing.
Next learn the 3rd part. Now you can mix parts 1, 2 and 3, repeating as you like and you have a reasonably long piece of music.
Most of the stuff we learn is songs, which get their length by repeating verses and choruses with singing. If youāre not singing, thatāll get boring. David Hamburger (check his youtube) teaches how to arrange instrumental acoustic blues songs to enable you to stretch them out to a reasonable length. I find it very useful. But itās very traditional acoustic blues stuff, so youāll have to decide if you like that stuff enough to go down that path.
And Iām grateful for yours and @roger_holland gardening chats and pictures, makes me want to finish the work I started in the garden and make a gardening update too!
@jjw You got really great memory. I was really learning that, but as I went more into it I felt its above my current skill level, so I left it. I will get back to itā¦ some day. I also abandoned thumbpick and got back to bare thumb. I just learned freight train and that gave me a lot into my standard fingerstyleā¦ I think its important to know when to stop and go on.
Like this I had it year ago with slap technique and now I am justā¦ doing it and its much easier than it was.
Sometimes I pick piece where I can see I cant do that, so for me its better to leave than frustrate myself somewhere without decent result. On the other hand my latest upload seems pretty melodic to me and I dont state it as pure beginner tune.
I am gonna check that guy on YouTube.
Your point about repeating is nice. I can already see it on other tunesā¦ like you repeat the progression and you just add little embellishments or melody notes so it does not sound boring.
Haha, I tend to remember the people who are interested in fingerstyle (especially classics like Freight Train), which is what I am focused on.
Choosing songs that are too hard is something I struggle with, too. Iāve been working on Wilson Rag (also by Elizabeth Cotten) on and off for a few months. Itās probably a bit too hard for me (though I havenāt given it up yet).
Been documenting my Fingerstyle Blues in both my Roadcase (aka whatās now called a Learning Log) and āThe Madmanās Diaries - The Blues Chaptersā shared in AVYOP and UToob Channel. Available for anyone who wants to go look. Saves duplication.
another Fingerstyle lover and player here! Also not limited to genres, though in the last few years Iāve been listening to more Classical Music than I had in all my life. Classical Guitar makes the fingerpicking easier because the neck is wider and thereās more space for the fingers; also some structured work on Classical Guitar gives me some solid foundation which helps me to learn to express myself on the instrument. I love acoustic fingerstyle too and in due time I want to develop that tooā¦as I love strumming, fingers strumming comes easierā¦and I have fun with the Uke too!
