JokuMuu's Learning Log

Make sure to buy a good sturdy one that will take the weight of a couple of song books. Most of the collapsible/folding ones are designed for orchestra use and will only take the weight of a few sheets of music.

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I’m not sure I’m the one you should be asking; I’ve never been one for “practicing”. I’ve really only concentrated on playing songs and learnt a technique because it’s in a song or because it was interesting.

My view is that, as you push yourself to the next levels, then when you go back to previous stuff it’s become easier than it was. You just improve as a guitarist generally. I think for you that song is pretty much there. So what I would suggest as that you move on.
One song I learnt the progression for very early on was “Babe I’m Gonna Leave You” from Led Zeppelin’s first album:

This also starts in Aminor, has a descending bass line but finishes on a E major not minor. It also features the dreaded F chord!

Something you might also want to try is this from Justin but it might be above your playgrade:

I apologies if this flies in the face of received teaching, it is just my personal view.

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@Lisa_S Lisa, you always may :slightly_smiling_face: I don’t even know that saying in German…

Yes. And then still add the fact that I was always thinking “what melody is he singing in the bridge”…that got me a bit distracted while I should have been concentrating more on the other things.

Aiming for the moon can be motivating I guess, when I know there is a ladder to get there. Step by step towards a goal is somehow more motivating than practicing only basic things because they are easy.

:slightly_smiling_face: I will add this to my ever growing practice routines.

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Ha ha, that is certainly what has already happened with this song and in this version…

That voice…that very deep voice :sunglasses:

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Well that was a good progress video, well done. Now you can look back at that one when you record your next one.

It turns your thumb into your very own metronome :smiley: so worth practicing along to a drum track or metronome.

Absolutely. He’s already well on his way after serenading Brian like Marilyn Monroe serenading JFK.

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Don’t you throw candies at me when I should be eating my vegetables :potato: :broccoli: :carrot: :bell_pepper:

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Beautiful both of them. Of course way above my level… But some candies after but after a vegetable meal sometimes. Can’t say no to that. :slightly_smiling_face:

The album title is ‘Talk is Cheap’, I think poking a bit of fun at Mick Jagger who was making solo records around this time much against Keith’s wishes. Jagger’s aren’t that great, while I think Keith’s is pretty good, at least the first one. Like a good Stones album, just without Mick singing :rofl:

Well done Nicole! On taking the feedback and recording and sharing! That guitar is definetely too big for you as mine is for me. I wonder your right shoulder hurts as mine does…I costantly have to renogatiate my posture and always get back to the Classical guitar position so that the shoulder is nicely rekaxing down…but that is not ideal either because tapping my left foot feels always more coordinate and better than tapping the right one!

As others said fingerpicking and singing is not the easiest thing and you already can do it, from here on you can only improve.
Only one thing I noticed sometimes there’s more movement than necessary in your wrist and I wonder if you feel tension there? When I started fingerpicking I was doing it using the fingers and the all hand in a very bad way and it hurted so that I couldn’t fingerpick for more than a couple of minutes and I couldn’t enjoy it because of the pain. Probably this is not your case but it might be worth for you to have a focused few minutes a day on just having the fingerpicking slow and very relaxed on open strings no songs, no chords at all, just give all your attention on how your fingers move and you feel them. The process is long but I can assure yoy it 100% worth it!

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@roger_holland What a fantastic cover. Thanks for sharing :slightly_smiling_face:

Hmm… Now I will have to search your ode to Brian that James mentions from the depth of the forum … :wink:

Thanks :slightly_smiling_face: Will do. I recently downloaded Justin’s time trainer and it could really be fun practicing that with increasing BPM

I remember when I saw the Stones live in 2003, I was mainly waiting for Keith to sing. So yes, I will definitely check :slightly_smiling_face:

Thank you so much for checking that carefully, Silvia. There might have been something, but actually I’m not sure… I put it down to the summer weather and not having drunk enough water or so. I have to pay more attention to it :slightly_smiling_face:

It’s so good to be back. But I have sad that already, haven’t I? :dizzy:

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Wot no candy? What about your Chocolate Jesus eh? “Green Onions” for you next then.

Joking aside, things can often sound a lot more complicated than they are to play…

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Ha…, we have those at home. Not many remaining anymore… ( Good song, btw., knew it bit didn’t remember the name).

Chocolate Jesus. Hmm … That’s dark chocolate and supposed to be good for me :chocolate_bar:

Jimmy Page. When I saw him live playing with Robert Plant in 1995 as Page & Plant, he was drooling while playing. The drooling part I can manage already now ( well, at least when I’m sleeping :sleeping:), that’s surely a sign that there might be a Led Zeppelin song waiting for me sometime somewhere in the future.

The blues lick link… I can’t wait to try those slides. Printed the tab. Downloaded the guitar pro file and Guitar Pro mobile.
One week still then it’s summer vacation time. I will turn to this then as a special treat sometimes, without any expectations, fully aware that I most probably won’t succeed. Just a sneak peak of what will be ahead.

Now… Where are those onions? :onion:

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Noo No no don`t do that :see_no_evil: :hear_no_evil: … there is a good reason this is far away :grin:

for a good laugh fine…for serious musical meaning…no no and no

Greetings …O o :wavy_dash: :wavy_dash: :wheelchair: back to the "party"here :blush:

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One day sooner or later… I will accidentally stumble upon it :face_with_monocle:

Enjoy your party :tada::partying_face::tada:

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You never know what you will stumble upon here :see_no_evil: That reminds me it’s not long until it’s Rogier’s birthday.

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Oooo James … leave the woman in ignorance :grin: you
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The woman does not have time to go looking for it as she is busy practising :smiley: Now you on the other hand my friend should re-read the third bullet point on Brian’s response and treat the woman to a vocal performance of Broken Cowboy :pleading_face:

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The woman is indeed trying to concentrate on kitschy hair metal songs about thorny flowers… :rose:

Seriously though @roger_holland Roger, that was very, very far from terrible. You can sing much better than you think :slightly_smiling_face:

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:smile:
Mmm you let me read it again indeed …
and I have to admit that the comment from brian could lead to me to a maybe, or a but then I will uh yes, but how and when …well maybe a sweet home Nijkerk uhhh or Chicaco…

Now sssst i got to go back to the peeps in the garden :see_no_evil:

they are not there for me (this is now at the garden next to us)and so my presence is not necessarily wanted, and it stinks of burnt carcasses :see_no_evil:

Greetings

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It’s definitely good to reflect every now and again on progress, what’s going well and what isn’t. I think it can keep us honest and avoid getting stuck in a rut. Perhaps there’s a song that’s just taking too long to learn, maybe it’s time to park it for another day (speaking from my own experience here) or perhaps there’s a song that’s already good enough already (again one of mine).
I agree with what others have said about crib sheets and recording… I think it’s perfectly reasonable to have them around. You’re right that if you’ve truly mastered a song you won’t need them but I think it might be a very long time before I can say that about any song! What I’ve noticed is my concentration is really bad and I lose track of my place in songs really often, missing changes in a chord sequence or just playing the wrong section of a song. I do attempt to play songs without cues so I gradually reduce my reliance on them.

When it comes to smaller guitars… Taylor GS Mini, job done! My main guitar is a Taylor Grand Theatre which is the next size up, still a small guitar, really easy to play but less easy on the bank balance (all solid wood and made in USA), so it depends how wealthy you’re feeling as to whether I’d recommend one!

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Let’s see…as I said there is no rush with a new guitar at the moment :slightly_smiling_face: I might visit some guitar store during my vacation but only to browse and test :slightly_smiling_face:

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