Key Signatures Recognition

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Can you figure out if the key is sharp, flat, or natural just from the stave? Or you use that just to get the letter of the key, then you have to apply your knowledge of the chart to determine the rest?

When we use the Major Scale Worksheet to determine the number of sharps or flats a key has, we count them from I-VII, and I again repeats. So we say F# has 7#'s. On the stave, it shows 6#'s for F#. This is simply because they don’t count the F# twice? It is just a difference that we need to remember between the worksheet and the stave, in how they are counted?

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No there is no difference between the stave and the worksheet. When you count the sharps and flats on the worksheet you also don’t count the second F#. So even on the worksheet the key of F# has 6#s not seven.
An easy way to check yourself on the worksheet is they are set out in a particular order where each new line is going up by one sharp. C having none, G having one, D having two etc.
Hope that makes it a little clearer

Hi Fncanuk,

The first thing to remember that each major scale* has 7 notes or degrees (marked with Roman numerals). Not 8, but 7. When you see degree I the second time, that’s the octave of the root note, in your example F#. I think this is displayed in the worksheet for the sake of convenience so that everyone knows if they are filling it in correctly, and also to reinforce that each “letter” appears only once in a scale. I.e. in the key of F# major they don’t put Gb as the octave of the root.

Also, there’s the mnemonic of using the last # as an aid to determine the root note of the given key. Take G major as an example: it has 1 # on the 5th line which is the place of the note F. It means that the G major scale has F# sharp in it, and the key is one semitone higher than the last sharp in the key signature.

The same in D major: the last # is in the 3rd space which is the place of the note C. So the D major scale has F# and C# in it, and the key (D) is one semitone higher than C#.

If we apply this to the key signature of F# major, we’ll see that the last sharp is in the 4th space which is the place of the note E, and that means it’s an E# (enharmonically equivalent to F). And F# is one semitone higher than E#.

Hope this makes sense :wink:

  • Of course, there are pentatonic major scales with only 5 notes.

@dave.pritchard101 @Jozsef
Okay thanks guys!
So really, this version of the FCGDAEB mnemonic does work and includes all keys.

Frankly, I didn’t get the reason why should we learn key signatures. I am asking myself why should I know this? Can you people help me to understand why this is important and what would I miss if I didn’t learn them?

Hello @Relmon welcome to the Community.

If you’re a pianist, a trombonist, a cellist, a saxophonist, this is the stuff of life.
As a guitarist, the breadth of usual keys for most music (and this is a very generalised simplifcation) is much narrower and you can pretty much get way with only knowing about the keys of C, A, G, E and D.
But, in knowing what it takes to deduce and work with those keys, you have the skills and tools to do it for any key. So why not? Besides - if you’re playing guitar in any setting where there is a brass section, for instance, you can be guaranteed to be playing in the keys of Bb or Eb for starters. That is the way they are tuned.

Hope that helps.
Cheers :smiley:
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