šŸ˜Ž Motivation & Inspiration Club #17 with Lieven | Spice Up Your E-shaped Barre Chords

Sun, Oct 13 2024

You know you can shift the E-shape barre along the neck to play different barre chords. Now, itā€™s time to step it up! Join Lieven and discover which different flavors of chords are within reach, using the E-shape as starting point. This lesson is aimed at Grade 4 + students who had at least a first experience with ā€œE-shapeā€ barre chords.

Register and timezone info: https://www.justinguitar.com/clubs

Hey guys,

Remember how I said some basic chord shapes can be the the base for a lot of different things, wheter it are textures in your strumming or whole fingerpicking melodies?
Now is the time to explore that.

I want to show you show with examples how the basic E shape barre has more to offer than just majors and majors (with the root on the bottom string).

In the meantime, these example could inspire you to get that E-shape barre practice going.

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Hey Community :wave:

You know you can shift the E-shape barre along the neck to play different barre chords. Now, itā€™s time to step it up! Join Lieven and discover which different flavors of chords are within reach, using the E-shape as starting point. This lesson is aimed at Grade 4 + students who had at least a first experience with ā€œE-shapeā€ barre chords.

Happening October 13 - Register here!

As I write this, the session is nearly there

This is the slidedeck I will be using to support this session:

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Hi Fanny, I cant find a link to this club, it is not on the clubs page. Please help.

Lieven, thanks a lot for providing the slide deck in advance, although I wasnā€™t able to join live I was able to make use of the time going through the deck and checking out some of the links that you provided. thanks again, Ian

@FannyJustinGuitar is it normal behavior dat there is no explicit ā€œjoinā€ button (anymore)?

Thank you very much for this lesson @LievenDV !! I really meant to post this yesterday, but life got in the way! Anyways, after watching this, for some reason, everything I have learned so far about the E-Shape barre, degrees, a bit of theory knowledge and knowing the Em pent, C maj, Minor Pentatonic and pattern 1 of the major scale. This all came together and clicked like a :bulb:. Oh thatā€™s the overall picture of this box thing. I hope the bulb was correct!!! Lol. Thanks mate! And of course thanks to Justin and all that made that light click!!

Rock on!
Darren

Yes; happy to read that you SEE where your fingers can go.
The scale shapes may feel arbitrary at first, when still on open chords.

As soon as you start to dig in the works of barre chords, you really start to play with the same notes and shapes. Theyā€™ll feel less arbitrary.

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Hi Lieven, I couldnā€™t attend the live session, so Iā€™m watching the recorded video on YouTube. Question: isnā€™t the A13 chord you showed us the same as the A6 chord, because both are based on the Amaj (E-shape) but with the pinky on the 7th fret B string (F#) ?

Yes! Thatā€™s it exactly, I can now see that now! Heck I only know what a few of the actually names of the individual string notes, except Roots and strings 1,5,6. Itā€™s all really coming clear why Justinā€™s course is structured the way it is and why he stresses if it sounds good it is!!! That rings in my head all the time, along with practice perfectly, because practice makes permanent! :slightly_smiling_face:

Rock on!
Darren

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Excellent question!

Check the difference in how they are built:

A6 Chord: A, C#, E, F#

which is Root (A), Major 3rd (C#), Perfect 5th (E), Major 6th (F#)

A13 Chord: A, C#, E, G, B, F#

which is Root (A), Major 3rd (C#), Perfect 5th (E), Minor 7th (G), 9th (B), 13th (F#)


Itā€™s a bit beyond this lesson but you can use this neat tool to analyse your chords:

When the chord you are building INCLUDES a 7 and you want to ADD a 6, you note it as ā€œ13ā€

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Look what happens when I replace that 7 with a 6ā€¦
The 13 automatically switches to a 6 as well!
Donā€™t try to form that with your fingers but just look at the dots :wink:
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So, remember;

  • when it says 6, there is no 7
  • when it says 13, is has both a 7 and 6

Good Evening
Unfortunately I missed the inspiration Club 17, could someone please let me Know if it is possible to watch a recording on You Tube , and what do i need to search for.
Many thanks

Check the ā€œliveā€ tab on the Community Account:
I move the video from ā€œunlistedā€ to ā€œpublicā€
https://www.youtube.com/@JustinGuitarCommunity/streams

Just wanted to say thank you for this excellent club session, Iā€™m currently just watching it through on YouTube. The only barre chord Iā€™ve played to date is F so thereā€™s a lot to process but Iā€™ve grabbed a copy of the slides so I can view them at leisure. Iā€™m only really learning other peopleā€™s songs at the moment but Iā€™m sure I can work this into them!

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Thank you for the Reply.

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FYI: My next Live Club is yet unannounced on the site but it will be a similar session, this time for the A shape.

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Hey Lieven,
I used your lesson to try to get back into learning a bit of theory again, ending up doing a Justin Triads lesson, so thanks for that :smiley:
Two quick thoughts:

  1. I saw you stated that thereā€™s no sound at the beginning of the lesson, but only after doing all my PC checks to see where I was muted. Iā€™d change the YT link to a timestamped one a couple of minutes in like this https://www.youtube.com/live/3Jqir4mD1ZY?si=ifgXLg_uYvVOf_ap&t=158
  2. With chord-shaped hammer-ons, do you strum while youā€™re playing them? As opposed to single-string hammer-ons, where you donā€™t pluck the string?

Youā€™re making life hard for yourself by learning the F. (Lieven mentions this in the lesson).
F barres are much harder, the frets are wider apart, but more importantly, itā€™s beside the raised height of the nut and the strings are much harder to depress. Try learning the same shape up around the 6th fret and when youā€™re comfortable with that move down the neck :smiley:

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I needed this advice 18 months ago :joy: Iā€™ve found it out the hard way! On the plus side I can now play F and it doesnā€™t fill me with dread when I see it on a song sheet :blush: I can see though if Iā€™d initially practiced forming it up the neck and gradually moved up that I might have learned it faster

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Haha, perhaps some other poor soul might benefit from the ā€˜hackā€™ :laughing:
On a related point, it took me a while to grasp why they were called E-shaped barre chords (when it was on the F), and A-shaped ones (esp. if they were minor and had exactly the shame ā€˜shapeā€™ just one string up!) :open_mouth: :roll_eyes: :rofl:

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