Cyril, I checked the Workbook (re-downloaded), it is properly updated as mentioned by Richard @Richard_close2u.
every time i check this topic i feel like being back at school in physics or maths
Deborah @MacOneill
I know what you mean but I like the science behind these sort of things.
Michael
Hi Lisa,
I am talking about the change he mentioned today at 9:59am.
The new lesson page:
Practical Perspectives
Guitars only play notes between 80Hz to 1.31kHz. ** The second thickest string on the guitar is the note A, whose frequency is 110 Hz. Piano goes lower and higher (down to 27.5 Hz and up to 4.18 kHz (4180 Hz) on an 88 key piano) .
** NOTE: There is an error in the video - it is stated and written that the highest pitch on guitar is 7kHz. This is an error.
The content of PMT v2:
Practical Perspectives
Guitars only play notes between 80 Hz to 1.31 kHz. The second thickest
string on the guitar is the note A, whose frequency is 110 Hz. Piano goes
lower, down to 27.5 Hz, but not as high, only up to 4.18 kHz (4180 Hz).
Hi Cyril,
aaah, now I got your point correctly and yes, you are definitely right. My bad.
no problem
Wowzers what a debate.
So as far as fundamentals go the frequency is a nowhere near 5k.
But I know editing in the studio that important frequencies exist from the guitar way above that… we are into harmonics and overtones - but they play a massive part of the sound we hear.
Just as it shows in the video when I play a not on piano the spectrum analyser shows many notes above the note played.
So that’s where I got the figure - didn’t think it would cause so much controversy and outrage lol.
I’ll see if I can tweak the video to clarify, but unlikely to be right away as I have other fish to fry right now! J
Maybe one reason so many of us older folks turn to guitar is that they play in frequency ranges we can still hear…
In the Practical Music Guide on page 7 it says, “Guitars only play notes between 80 Hz to 1.31 kHz. The second thickest string on the guitar is the note A, whose frequency is 110 Hz. Piano goes lower, down to 27.5 Hz, but not as high, only up to 4.18 kHz (4180 Hz).” According to this a guitar can play a note at 1310 Hz which is lower than a piano’s at 4180 Hz so why does it say “not as high.” Am I reading this wrong?
Hi Jozsef,
Thanks for your response. After I posted my question, I did get access to this whole thread in which this topic has been discussed extensively. I see that the original Workbook stated the guitar went as high as 7kHz and Justin clarified that he was using a frequency analyzer that picked up harmonics and overtones. The workbook has since been corrected to indicate the upper threshold of 1.31kHz for a guitar.
I should just drop it and move on, however, the wording on page 7 for future readers is still going to be confusing: “Piano goes lower, down to 27.5 Hz, but not as high, only up to 4.18 kHz (4180 Hz).” This wording makes sense when the upper threshold was written as 7kHz but now that it’s corrected to 1.31khz, it is confusing. Just trying to help others not fall into this rabbit hole.
Okay, wait, the post that you pointed me to refers to a “new lesson page” with corrected wording of “Piano goes lower and higher (down to 27.5 Hz and up to 4.18 kHz (4180 Hz) on an 88 key piano) .” Where is that new lesson page located?
It’s in the notes beneath this lesson
Thank you, LadyoftheCastle!
At some point, editing the workbook and putting a banner in the video with the correction will make a difference for those among us who “freak out” over contradiction! The good news is the JG community clearly is there to support one another and the responses were quick and helpful.
Hi
I’m going through some older lessons to see what I need to review. I see 2 different versions of the e-book for this PMT - Grade 1
I have two downloaded versions:
JG-PMT-Grade1-Worbook-v2.pdf
and
JG-PMT-Grade1-Worbook-Digital-v04 - this is a digital version where you can fill in the pdf
The quizzes are slightly different, but not that matters much. But, it can be confusing.
Unless I am mistaken or confusing lessons,
The only download I see in the Resources tab for this lesson is the Workbook-v2
I don’t remember where I found the Digital-v04 version.
Perhaps someone can check and add the digital version to the Resources and remove the older version. I assume the digital version is the current, correct version.
Thanks
Andrew