Traditional Strat with better Upper Fret Access

Does anyone have recommendations for such a thing?

I have a standard traditional strat which I love. However, I practice mostly standing up and I find the upper frets beyond the E and B strings tough to reach because of the heel joint.

So it would have to sound as stratty as a Fender strat but with a contoured heel joint. I’m aware of the Sire Larry Carlton S7, but the body shape isn’t traditional enough for me - it looks a bit too pointy! (Yes, I’m shallow).

Suhrs fit the bill but are (i) expensive and (ii) not so widely available in the UK

Any ideas gratefully received!

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Well, there’s the PRS Silver Sky, but I bet you hate the headstock on that.

Cheers,

Keith

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Fender have done some carved heel joints. The Jeff Beck model has it, and MIM Deluxe models.

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Apparently the neck joint contributes a lot to the tone and sustain. This is one of the claims about the superiority of the Les Paul with its set neck. I believe Richie Blackmore glued his Strat necks in for that reason. So going for a slimmer heal profile could be at the expense of tone. Just a thought.

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@Majik Suprisingly I’m not anti-PRS headstock or birds! I had forgotten about the silver sky - I think at the next opportunity I’ll try one out in a shop to see how I get on with the 7.5" radius neck.

@Richard_close2u Ah right, the JB looks lovely, but pretty expensive. I couldn’t find any Player series with carved joints, but I haven’t looked very hard yet. Thanks for the tip!

@rorystrat Yep, sustain is important as I like bluesy music, so I’d definitely want to try before I buy!

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Personally, I doubt it. I think the glued-in vs bolt on makes sense as a glued-in neck will be mechanically stiffer and will absorb less energy from the strings (less energy absorbed = greater sustain).

I doubt a few cubic centimetres of wood mass will make much of a difference, unless that somehow contributes the mechanical stiffness of the neck joint.

Cheers,

Keith

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Is there and Anderton’s close to you? If so, you might check out the G&L strat style models, Legacy, S500 and Commanche. The heal is not rounded but the body cut may be a bit deeper. I don’t have a Strat for comparison, but I have no trouble reaching all the frets and I have short stubby fingers.

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Thanks for the suggestions Robert. There is just one Anderton’s branch in UK, and it’s quite a drive for me. I can reach all the frets without much problem sitting down, but standing up I can’t reach the low strings on the high frets comfortably.

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I play standing up almost all the time. The heel of the necks on all my G&Ls actually are rounded where the neck joins the body. My previous comment was in error as I was referring to the body of the neck socket, not the actual neck. The necks are also all modern C with a three having 9.5 radius boards and one a 12.
Hope this helps.

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The options for a different heel carve on a bolt-on neck are quite limited, and I’d say you’re probably heading towards Super Strat or custom built territory.

My first and only thought is Feline - Feline alder S-type roasted maple neck relic charcoal burst – Feline Guitars.

If you were to ask this question on thefretboard.co.uk, then there are a good few people who will know what options are available.

I’m not a lead player by any means, but I find it hard to imagine wanting to play on the 5 and 6 strings up near the body of the guitar. The little solo fills I do pretty much only involve the four thinnest strings.

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I think you’re right - there aren’t many. I wasn’t aware of Feline specifically, but I guess quite a few custom builders would offer that possibility.

It’s not something you’d do a lot, but those strings/frets with chunky gain offer a warm and fuzzy sound. I’d do it if, for example I was doing a dominant blues in A with A minor pentatonic box 1 rooted at the 17th. A quick run down the scale there can sound nice.

Like EC does here at ~4:10 (though it’s so fast there you can hardly hear it) Eric Clapton - Groaning the Blues (Official Live Video - Nothing but the Blues) - YouTube

If you can hardly hear it when EC plays it then I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it. :smiley:

Now look, you’re undermining my excuse to get a new guitar. This is a clear violation of forum rules :rofl:

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I don’t have particularly big hands, but this is how far I can reach on my Fender Player Plus Strat, without stretching my fingers:

How does it compare to your guitar?


This is me fretting the 6th string on the 17th.
With my thumb in the position you have yours, there’s no way I could play with any speed on the low strings!

Hi Phil,
Just stop it. I can see it crystal clear, you just need another guitar for this :roll_eyes:, have fun shopping :sunglasses:
Greetings…

:+1:

If motivation did depart,
Just be smart: Add to Cart

:rofl:

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No problem in reaching the dusty end with a Strat; but a Les Paul? Leave the poor guitar alone: