Welcome to the forum Rodrigo.
You are correct or as Justin likes to call them the Stuck 3 4 chords. If you’d like to learn the proper way to play it Justin has a lessen on his website. the link is in the first post
Wow, I remember when I started learning that song in grade 2, my pinky was hurting so bad and my fingers were struggling to flex for the sus chords.
Now, a year later, I go back by accident to that song and it’s like night and day. My pinky is hurting just a little bit but I’ve been playing the song for almost 2 hours haha.
Thanks Richard. I’m working on Wonderwall right now as part of the Grade 2 Mod 8 lessons.
I figured out the first part but your graphic gives me the second part.
Hello, what is this chord please? I dont know it and cant find under Justins video.
In video its in 17:40.
Hi Michal!
Justin names this chord: “D add11/F#”. He describes it as a transition chord when moving between G and Em.
You will find more information in his module 8 lession: https://www.justinguitar.com/guitar-lessons/the-stuck-3-4-chords-b2-801, and he explicitly mentiones it’s usage in Wonderwall.
Thanks for reply. I am not native speaker and in this part were too many informations for me. I probably did not catch it. Thanks for fast response so I can finish my traning list.
Personally with strumming it really helps me to hear the strumming pattern.
Justin goes through the strumming pattern for Wonderwall at a rip. At least for me. Now that I’ve got it memorized, I’m sharing videos counting out the strumming pattern at different speeds.
Caveat - I was not using a metronome and I do speed up in almost every instance.
That’s something I’ll need to work on now that I’m aware of it.
However, it gives those wishing to learn this rather complex strumming pattern something to work with at a speed they may be able to follow based on their proficiency. And remember - I’m just a Grade 2 Mod 8 type of guy.
I have three original videos and two videos which are extended cuts. Hopefully this helps others get a grip on the strumming pattern. I’ve included a visual of the strumming pattern as well. Have fun!
Wonderwall Strumming Slow 1 min 8 seconds
Wonderwall Strumming Middling 43 seconds
Wonderwall Strumming Slow to Middling 1 min 10 seconds
This is purposefully starting slow and increasing speed
Wonderwall Strumming Slow Extended 2 min 18 seconds
Bad video quality but this is kinda a listening and follow along exercise
Wonderwall Strumming Middling Extended 1 min 34 seconds
For anyone who finds the explanation of the rhythm guitar from Justin also too fast, you can of course also adjust the playback speed in the video settings (bottom right) from slightly slower to excruciatingly slow… (That function button has really made guitar life easier at times…
Also known as the ‘Drunk Justin button’
Greetings,Rogier
Thanks for the tip. The issue I experienced as well is that you have to find Justin performing the strumming pattern in the video. Once you do you have one shot playing the video which is relatively short. In the case of Justin’s full demo of both patterns, the video plays from 12:15 to 12:39 or 24 seconds. Then you need to stop, reacquire the beginning of the strumming pattern with your mouse, then play through it again - basically interrupting the flow of the pattern.
With the Youtube based videos you don’t have the option of bounding a video segment from one time stamp to another time stamp and then placing it in a loop.
That’s one of the reasons I’m a fan of tools such as Soundslice which allow you to do just that with video and tabs displayed at the same time - that is bound one segment of a song and play it over and over again. Repetition is my friend.
So to address that issue I downloaded the video, cut out the full two part strumming section, and spliced it together into a 1 minute 36 second video. I could play that segment using VLC and allow it to loop which allowed me to play along - for as long as I wanted - and at the playback speed that I could set into VLC. Then I broke my practice of the strumming pattern down into 5 minute practice sessions…and I had it memorized by the end of the day.
So using that approach, it took me a very short period of time to memorize the complex pattern and gain some muscle memory playing it.
All I’m doing here is addressing a problem that I encountered. If I’m having that problem, then other newbies and beginning-intermediate players are as well.
All I’ve done here is offer a solution that worked for me personally.
If a more advanced player somehow thinks that is unnecessary and that all a newbie and less advanced player needs is a printed copy of the pattern with no audio cues? I’d suggest developing a Nitsuj mind. We (newer players) struggle and those like myself need all the audio and visual clues that we can find.
And repetition is our friend.
I’m sharing my own struggle and providing one way to overcome that struggle with the full Wonderwall pattern played as bounded video of just the strumming pattern and nothing else.
Hopefully newer players like myself will find this useful.
Thank you for this Richard I think that one of the problems with the video and being able to get this strumming pattern correct is that Justin actually says one thing initially and then demonstrated it a little bit differently so it’s confusing. so thank you for clarifying. I really struggled as well and my playing is intermediate. I don’t usually have a hard time with dictating these if I take my time but I eventually gave up and came here to see if there was something like this, so again thank you!
Very helpful and simple. Thank you!!
TODAY is THE DAY I’ve been longing for since 1996 when I first heard the song.
Today I (with the help of Justins superb video) actually played the song myself! Strumming pattern and cord changes in place.
Hope you all have a great.day as well!
Well done Rudi, just in time to help Gallaghers on their next tour
Haha! Well if they play in Stockholm and need to rest a couple of minutes, I’ll be there.
Balls.
This “simple beginners song” has a strumming pattern that I find about as simple as juggling flaming chainsaw’s… Not sure I’ll ever be able to remember it, let along do it.
I had serious problems with this as well.
For me, the trick was to break it down into smaller pieces. Like only the first bar to start with, reading lound (like Down, Down, down-up-down etc.) while my hand moved and slowly strummed where I should. I counted it like eight notes (1 + 2 + 3 + 4 +) and I did this really slow like 25-30 BPM for 3-5 minutes. Only the first bar.
And when i got the hang of it I moved to the next bar. Same procedure as the first bar. Ridiculously slow and reading out loud while my hand moved 3-5 minutes. Then I played something else and started over the next day.
I realised that keeping the frustration at a minimum (only a couple of minutes each practice session) is a big key for me when I learn. After a couple of days it just fell into place and I could connect the first and second bar, and later on slowly speed up the movement.
Give it time and don’t be so hard on yourself (for more than a couple of minutes every session) and you will beat this strumming monster in just a couple of days.
Cheers!
Funnily enough, I had a break from it for about 6 weeks and then went back to it and it just clicked!
I’ve not got it memorised so I have to see it and listen to it but then I’ve got it. Although I must say, the timing isn’t quite right so it does need a bit more practice…
It was a song that I started much too soon in my guitar playing journey and really got bogged down with it. It’s definitely harder than people give it credit for. All you can do is break down into chunks and gradually build it up. You need to be relaxed to be able to strum it at full speed.
One bonus thing is that Do you know what I Mean, also by Oasis uses the same chords as Wonderwall but is a little easier, so you’ll be able to learn that quickly if you can play Wonderwall
Thanks mate, I never noticed that about the chords with the song. I’ll have a listen out for it now.
If you look at my latest learning log post I’m playing that song with the Wonderwall chords… there’s only the pre-chorus that’s different and that’s just (E D A)x3 followed by C D A and then into the chorus which again is just cycling the Wonderwall chords