Having recently read the thread about being good as rythem guitarist, I dont know why the question came to my head.
Are certain guitars more suited to certain genres and styles than others. I cant say I know what genres have developed, at the development of a new instrument, Iām not that kind of geek lolā¦
or is it that if you get proficient enough it really doesnāt matter as you can put those hands to anything. ?
I think the āthis guitar is for this genreā thing is overrated, at least for electrics that is
Not being influenced by genres and guitar geekery is a blessing and you will focus more on what matters than the details
There are some features that help but in most cases these features rather āaddā functionality.
Other guitars would seldom ālackā, others are just āslightly better equipped to do certain thingsā
Example: pickups
Effect on your tone: overrated if you arenāt looking for something specific.
You have to know what to āhear forā when swapping pickups and the way you configure pickup height, distortion, amp settings (gain), EQ and (virtual) cabinets does 10 or 100 times more than the pickups. āHotā (high output) pickups act differently than low output but a bit of that is mitigated through pickup height.
When DO they matter? when going from crap to good pickups or to a completely different kind of pickup. You will hear and āfeelā it when playing it. Going from single coil to humbucker or vice versa is a huge deal too.
There are some cases where features matter for genres
Some examples:
Scale length in combination with gauge and type of strings
Huge factor for me; has effect on how the guitar feels and sounds. No surprise, it is the part of the guitar you interact most with. 24" seems to be my home while I learned and played on a 25.5" Stratocaster for years. I even have a 23" which is wicked fast to play but a challenge to get well articulated high gain sounds from in a downtuned setting
The type of vibrato on the guitar. I used to be a fan of those things but I seldom use it these days. If you want to do fancy and fast guitar virtuoso stuff like Vai, Satriani etc, youāll need a vibrato arm
Accessibility of higher frets: useful feature for styles that need lead work high on the neck (I seldom go there
fretboard radius (the curvature of your fretboard) has effect on playability; there is nog good or bad here; merely preference and features that matter for certain styles of playing.
pickup switching options
Neck/brigde/middle and combinations. Bridge and neck is a significant difference and most of that is due to the position; A string vibrates differently along its length and where you have a pickup along the string does a lot to your sound.
So, I guess my conclusion is: look for features instead of seeing the guitar as a whole unchangable package labelling it based on its body shape and color
Would this be a fun thing to do a Live Club about? features and how much they matter?
Yes they are, at least to my experience. There are crossover guitars helping metal strings acoustic guitarists migrate into classical nylon territory. And there are metal strings acoustic guitars featuring wider necks more suitable for fingerstyle. Of course you can play everything on anything (almost) but some instruments are design to make it more efficient or easier.
Iāve heard this before and though I play fingerstyle, Iāve only had one acoustic guitar my whole life, so I havenāt ever made a comparison. What is it about the wider neck that makes is more suitable for fingerstyle?
To put it simply, there is more room for your fingers. It improves the ease of play, there is a difference when I play standard 44 mm Takamine and 46 mm Lakewood. Iām finding it helpful but for some the difference could be not significant enough.
Play whatever you want with whatever youāve got, if it sounds good ā¦ !
Ha ! says the man with 11 guitars and 2 basses
Oh and a cigar box ! Mmmm best not take my advice.
I think the notion that certain guitars are needed for certain genres is by and large a marketing strategy to get people (especially beginners) to buy multiple guitars. (Iām thinking electric, not acoustic.)
Based on what I read here and elsewhere, itās very successful!
Iād better add that I bought all of mine in the knowledge that I could play anything on any of them, at any time. Non are genre specific, in fact I am just having an Early British Metal workout on the Taka acoustic, as I couldnāt be bothered to switch to the LP after my fingerstyle session.
I am with Bill Hicks when it comes to folks in marketing.
OK so this is going to be really telling of my ignorance of guitars lol.
When you say look for the features , what do you mean by that, besides volume, tone, vibrato if needed and a selector switch , what else is there lol.
Good god yes, sooner the better. Itās a major issue I think, Everyone wants a guitar to suit then and what they like playing. So having a fundemental understing of the basics of guitars has got to be more important than any beginner realises.
OK, so the reason for this thread, Iām looking for my ā60th birthday final guitarā this year and have until June to find something suitable.
I started looking at the 60ās Cherry 335 but soon fell for the Ice T looks fantastic. In a few week I have plans to goto Andertons and try one for size. Iām a little on the short side at 5ā4" and it may feel a big guitar but even with the 339 I tend to lean over a bit.
watching a few vids, Iām not into Teleās (apparently very suited to rythem) , I just dont like the look of what is just a flat lump, looking unfinished lol.
butā¦Iām looking at other kinds of guitar too, like PRS 22 Custom, Gretch and anything else that pops up between now and then.
R.
The guitar used for rhythm is going to do the job you make it do. It isnāt going to be based much on the guitar. Some instances I can think of are simply obvious capability. For instance if you want to play slide on a 7.5 inch radius Strat neck, you will probably struggle a lot and would want something far flatter. I cannot see a percussive thump work well on a solid body. I donāt see a tremolo on an acousticā¦
I have been playing acoustic tunes on my metal-marketed PRS Tremonti since I got it. All I needed was a clean amp channel. It sounds very pretty.
I think you will want to put your rhythm targeted purchase into an amp that can give the broad array of sounds you will want to make. For the guitar, go with something that you like to play. I have an Ibanez that I want to pick up every time I look at it. That is the best guitar in my opinion because I like it and have a signal chain after it to adjust into whatever sound is appropriate for the use I put it to.
Makes sense. Do you find a trade-off in the fretting hand? A lot of fingerstyle playing uses thumb-over-the-top chords, which must be harder with wider neck.
Sounds like your looking at some real nice guitars.
Since your going down the semi hollow route may I suggest checking out a casino. A hollow body w/p90s. Cheap if ya want too, or expensive if ya wanna go USA made too.
Good luck and have fun in finding just the right guitar for your Birthday.
As for certain guitars for certain genres.
I donāt know as I think I mostly play one or 2 genres at the most anyway.
But I will say, I like to play the same song on different guitars. Acoustic to elec. Plug in the acoustic, or change amps on the same guitar.
I find it fun to do + sometimes I find it helps me with whatever song Iām learning as to playing elec. vs acoustic too. I find acoustic less for giving since thereās no effects to add. That said, elec. can amplify the slightest mistake too. So I find it give and take from one to the other.
Must say, I canāt see a classical guitar w/nylon strings doing much with hair metal or whatever itās called. And visa versa too. But I reckon it could be done. Might even be a interesting sound. I donāt knowā¦