Whether I can sing in tune is maybe down to your judgement and not mine !
All I know is that a voice is just like an instrument. You need to learn how to use it and practice effectively. I have my suspicions of what Maggie @batwoman might be sending your way. Pay attentions it will serve you well !
In the mean time here’s my story which I shared on the old forum in many guises but if you think I am doing alright its a success story in which you can join in. And as its me, this may be a long post. Grab a tinnie and throw some shrimps on the barbie !
As a young teenager I had a good voice, loved singing early Pete Green Fleetwood Mac and a lot of Marvin Gaye. A couple of years after my voice broke I discovered beer bikes parties and generally screaming at football matches . Quite natural for the team I followed as there was never much joy. Oh and I’d been smoking since I was 9 !!! Singing was usually a drunken affair at our weekly rock venue pub and bike rallies. I reckon I abused my vocal chords but was normally too wasted to give a rats. Work, marriage, child, domesticity followed and life got “normal” apart from the odd drunken rally a couple of times each year. Although I still loved to sing I was pretty much banned from doing so in the home as I could not hold a note. Well I could not find a note let along hold it. So singing was confined to letting rip in the car with the volume maxed out. The only one who put up with it was my daughter.
For pretty much 40 years I thought I was tone deaf and felt I was Mr Monotone. On the odd occasion I actually heard myself singing I knew what everyone was on about, It was rank and normally consisted of three notes if you were lucky. Despite the stop start guitar journey I eventually arrived here and after a while recorded a few songs but avoided singing until about 6 or 7 years ago. Our good friend and mega collaborator @RomanS aka Schlaffenwagen asked me to sing on a proto punk song from '71 by a group called World War III (they’d be popular right now !!) as he wanted a working class English accent. Now seeing as he had not heard me talk let alone sing it was all a bit surreal and I just said sorry I don’t sing. Back then most of Roman’s collabs had Leo @crocodile1 on vocals and there was no way I could match Le Croc De Vox. But he kept asking and I kept refusing and that went on for months. In the end I said I’ll do a demo and you’ll see you need some one who can sing !! Demo done Roman says “so you CAN sing why have we been dancing around for months?” So we did Ascension Day
which is on my Soundcloud catalogue but I knocked up this video a while later and I was pretty chuffed but still thought I had a crap voice and zero ability and minimal range.
Over the years that followed, I did a few more vocal stints for Roman, Born To Be Wild, Irish Pub Song to add a few “classics” but despite Roman’s nurturing I still felt false. I started a few of my own recordings but had to do the vox separate as I just could not sing and play. Plus I pretty much rearranged each song so it was in the Key of A. By then I think I had a limited range within that key but nothing elsewhere.
It clicked for me when I started singing and playing, which was a love hate affair that went on for many unsuccessful years until November 2020 and I recorded a short tester of Ralph McTell’s Streets of London. I thought it was crap vocally but the feed back I got here was amazing. That was pretty much what kicked off the Madman’s Diaries which was the saga of me singing and playing but I still thought the singing was pants and everyone here was being kind.
Towards the end of that year a few folks on the forum including @batwoman @DavidP and @LBro started talking about Chris Liepe and his initial 3 lesson free singing course and that fact that after that most had singed up for his 12 week Discover Your Voice course. Being the aging negative sceptic that I have been all my life I felt, yeah as if this bloke could make me sing !! But I did the freebie course and boy what a difference. I suddenly had range that I thought impossible, ok it was an octave plus but for me it was mega !! So I signed up for the 12 week course and it was worth every penny and ok I might have dragged it out over a year but boy what an investment, My range spans over two octaves now, I have falsetto and can sing in any key, in fact I now go out of the way to avoid the key of A and my old comfort zone.
It did take a lot of focused practice and discipline but his techniques are actually quite simple and you will find you already have an incredible range that you use in everyday talking without realising the fact and its just a matter of transference. Oh and imitating a lot of cartoon characters and most importantly getting used to not caring what you sound like and just making noise. Its fundamental building blocks that unlock the potential you already have and that’s everyone.
When I did my recent recording and OM performance of Aerosmith’s Amazing the first thing my daughter said to me “bet you didn’t think you’d be doing Tyler 18 months ago” ! my response was that I never thought I’d be doing anything from Mr Tyler. Ha and let alone Grace Slick and White Rabbit
Despite 45 years of being told not to sing in the house by my missus, she is now my No1 fan and can’t wait for the OM recordings to be published and is now happy for me to sing around the house.
So now back to you my friend.
JK you have a great voice (listen to Mrs B @batwoman). It has a great tone and timbre for the songs you have been covering, which sometimes I don’t get the time to comment. But you are doing very well for sure. So maybe it is just some confidence and self belief that you need but are doing ok. Chris Liepe’s course is not free but if you want to take your singing further I can attest that it is a worthwhile investment and may inspire you to look at his other courses.
You already have a good foundation to build and the tools to take that further are not that difficult or complicated and are certainly achievable. It just depends on how far you want to go ?
Let me know if you need any links to Mr Liepe’s material but Maggie may have already done that.
At the end of the day in tune out of tune just have fun. I have covered so many songs over the years but the Rumjacks cover stand out as the best for the craic. Demon production from Roman, great contribution on vox by Leo and his female friends and a stella guitar performance from Mike Sebastien. Some time it don’t matter if its on point. But it just needs that Je ne sais quoi !
Sorry for the ramble!